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To: M CAHILL who wrote (463)4/7/1998 7:46:00 PM
From: Street Walker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 14778
 
Hi all.........

I've been so busy with stocks and taxes that I haven't given
my trading computer much thought the last few days.
I still have 400+ more stock transactions to type into TurboTax Deluxe.

Networm, your msg to me about looking at the speed of my system
to clear up any slowness is kinda beyond me. I'll find a friend
to help me work through your advice. But for now, my reason for
being on this thread is to build a NEW computer for daytrading. I'm currently using an old NEC p133. Since I'm going to put some money
into a new computer, I would rather use the "good stuff", rather than
just going out and buying an OEM model.

ZeusPaul, thanks for the on-going discussion.

M.Cahill, you are on the right thread. To build a computer
(to your niche) at a budget/reasonable price. There is much
advice here. ZeusPaul has gone to a lot of work making sense of
the various components. Go to home.att.net

My trading computer is almost finished in my mind.
I'm still deciding between STB or Appian multimonitor cards.
Then I need to decide on my hard drive set up and motherboard.
These decisions have been going along for some time.

One thing I've learned is that it takes a lot of personal reading
to come to some decisions. Let us know your preliminary system.
It will most likely be similar to mine at a much cheaper cost
than Dell.

Street Walker



To: M CAHILL who wrote (463)4/7/1998 11:22:00 PM
From: Zeuspaul  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 14778
 
>>trading... on a budget....Want something fast, with multiple monitor support. Considering the Dual Pentium II<<

Analysis of 2000 stocks currently takes 8 hours. Plan to track 10,000 stocks soon.

The Wall Street Analyst charting software by Omega Research indicates 16MB RAM for Win 95 and 32 MB RAM for NT as a minimum requirement. They go on to say that the software will take advantage of all available extended memory.

Check with MetaStock for RAM usage. Assuming they can make use of RAM you may want to consider maxing out the RAM. Skip the second processor and spend the money on the RAM. I have run some stock chart screens and my system (48MB RAM) bogs down quickly.

Also should I wait for win98 or use Windows NT?

It is determined by your applications. I have tried to move into NT on several occasions over the last two years but had to retrace to Win95. If you are into multimedia types of applications stick with Win 95 for now. If you want to use NT verify that all hardware and software is compatible with NT.

Win 98 will give you multimonitor options without specialized graphics cards. Most traders seem to want more than two monitors.

If you want dual processors they are only supported in NT. NT has support for multimonitors using standard video cards. If you want multimonitors in Win95 you will need a specialized card. (Dell does not support the Appian multi cards in Win 95. Previous posts on this thread indicate it is compatible with win 95. Check the link Street Walker gave you for a compilation of the numerous multimonitor posts.)

Any idea on what to buy or what will be available over the next few months.

The PII 350 and 400 along with the motherboards that support these two chips and the 100 MHz bus will be available starting April 15 +/-.
Intel's roadmap home1.swipnet.se
(site seems very slow tonight)
PII estimated chip prices (quantities of 1000)
Message 3571702

Possible base configuration

PII 333 ..................$600
LX motherboard...........$160
512 MB grade A SDRAM......$1400
8 GB EIDE harddrive.......$360

Ancillary items
(case power, video,
floppy, cd etc............$600

crude total $3200

Check Sag Electronics for an alternative to DELL
sagelec.com

Actually I think DELL does a pretty good job. I believe they use Intel motherboards and have the latest technology before many of the other big box makers. ( if you are into big box makers). Their prices can be beat for similar products.

Zeuspaul



To: M CAHILL who wrote (463)4/8/1998 10:07:00 AM
From: Spots  Respond to of 14778
 
>>Running MetaStock, Internet Trader Win95 now.

Metastock has a reputation for using all the memory
you have and then some, no matter how much it is <ggg>.

On Win95, there are still limited graphical resources
independent of physical memory size. I do not believe
Metastock makes excessive use of the graphical resources.
I don't run it on Win95 myself, but I have read reports on
the Metastock thread that "User" memory, i.e., virtual
memory (RAM plus swap) is the problem. On NT the graphical
memory problem does not exist. I don't know if the
graphical memory problem is solved in Win98 or not, but
apparently it isn't an issue for MS anyhow.

On either of these systems, more physical memory means
better MS performance. If you're going to analyze 10,000 stocks,
split for extra RAM. I'd guess 64meg is minimum and 128
is probably realistic. I'm looking for 256 in my next
machine.

BTW, I'm just setting up Metastock and have Quotes Plus
as my data feed. I'd be VERY interested in any details
you'd care to share about how you manage MS data for
2000 stocks (not to mention your plan to manage 10,000).

Regards,

Spots



To: M CAHILL who wrote (463)4/8/1998 6:17:00 PM
From: Zeuspaul  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 14778
 
100 MHz bus Computer

Check it out. It has the BX chipset and the PC100 RAM. You should be able to replace the PII 233 with a PII 400 when the price of the 400 comes down.
esc-technologies.com

Intel 100 MHz System

Intel Boxed SE440BXIA motherboard
with ISA audio
Intel Boxed Pentium II 233 MHz
Corsair PC 100 compliant Grade A 64 MB ECC SDRAM
ATI All in Wonder Pro AGP video card 8 MB
IBM Deskstar 8 6.4 GB IDE hard drive
Toshiba 32X IDE CD ROM
Teac floppy
Iomega Zip 100 ATAPI internal drive
In Win Q500 case with 300 W ATX power supply
chassis fan

$1755.59

with Microsoft Windows 95 OSR2+,
Microsoft PS/2 mouse, and
Microsoft PS/2 natural keyboard (original)

$1853.00