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To: Paul Engel who wrote (52525)4/9/1998 2:27:00 AM
From: Paul Engel  Respond to of 186894
 
Intel Investors - SUN and Fujitsu Agree to Support Merced with Solaris

This further solidifies SUN's Solaris commitment to the Intel Merced architecture.

The careful reader will note that there was no mention of support for the "upcoming" AMD K7!

Paul

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news.com

Sun adds Fujitsu in Unix
push
By Ben Heskett
Staff Writer, CNET NEWS.COM
April 8, 1998, 12:10 p.m. PT

With Santa Cruz Operation squarely in its
sights, Sun Microsystems (SUNW) will later
today add another partner to push its own
Unix derivative for systems based on Intel
chips.

Sun has convinced Asian systems giant
Fujitsu to offer its Solaris "flavor" of Unix
operating system software on both 32-bit
and upcoming 64-bit Intel-based systems.
The move follows the announcement last
summer of a similar deal with NCR.

The latest partnership underscores drastic
changes in the Unix operating system
market. A few systems companies are lining
up partners at a furious pace to retain
viability as players with minimal market share
choose to drop out of Unix development.
Despite the consolidation, Unix-based
software remains a fragmented industry, in
some respects.

Earlier this week, Tandem Computers, a
Compaq subsidiary, announced plans to use
Digital Equipment's 64-bit Unix OS for
various high-end markets. Digital also
recently signed up Sequent Computer
Systems. SCO has signed up various
Intel-based systems players to sell its
operating system.

Sun remains the largest player in the Unix
server OS market on systems running RISC
(reduced instruction set computing) chips.
But the firm has articulated a strategy to
expand that foothold and challenge SCO in
the Unix-on-Intel space, hoping to offer a
low-end alternative to the fast-growing
Windows NT Server operating system from
Microsoft.

SCO retains a substantial lead in shipments
of the server-based Unix-on-Intel operating
system market, according to market
researcher International Data Corporation. In
preliminary figures, it scored about 40
percent of the market for 1997, compared
with 3.5 percent for Sun's Solaris-on-Intel
offering.

Fujitsu has pledged to sell and support
Solaris versions targeting both 32-bit and
64-bit applications and focus sales on the
Japanese and Asian markets. Fujitsu will
also develop enhancements for Solaris. The
64-bit feature essentially allows larger
chunks of data to be crunched locally and
represents the next step in Intel-based
computing technology.

For some, the wave of partnerships in the
Unix industry is interesting at a tactical level
but misses the larger question. "What would
be good for the Unix industry is for the Unix
industry to keep growing," noted Jean
Bozman, analyst with IDC.

The Amdahl arm of Fujitsu will also commit to
selling 64-bit versions of Solaris for Intel's
next-generation Merced line of processors,
expected to debut next year, as well as
continuing to resell Solaris on RISC-based
systems from Sun.

Initial shipments from Fujitsu are expected in
the second half of this year. Enhancements
to the Solaris platform provided by Fujitsu will
appear in the first half of next year.

Fujitsu and Sun have a long-standing
relationship. Fujitsu has helped to
manufacture Sun's Sparc line of RISC-based
chips and resold Sun workstations.



To: Paul Engel who wrote (52525)4/9/1998 1:20:00 PM
From: Richard Tuck  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Paul,

<<I like your anti-AMD/Pro Intel stance on the AMD thread better than your Pro-AMD/Anti-Intel spiel on this thread.

Summing it all up, however, I'm forced to believe that you are actually as confused as you sound.>>

Actually, it would be more accurate to portray me as Anti-AMD/Anti-Intel at the moment. I just orient my comments to the stock represented by the thread.

Unfortunately, I just see AMD and Intel getting into a price war which won't help either company's stock. AMD will lose money, but not enough to put it out of business. INTC will make a lot of money, but not enough to maintain its current stock price.

I personally held on too long to INTC, selling out about a week or so ago when AMD's improved yields became evident (I had held INTC since Jan. 1996). This ended my last hope that INTC could create enough performance separation with AMD to allow INTC to maintain its higher prices and transition the market to Slot 1/P II without major competition. Furthermore, if AMD had continued its manufacturing problems for another quarter, it is likely that Celeron would have displaced the K6 at Compaq and maybe IBM. Now I would be very surprised if the K6 gets displaced anywhere.

I know that you and the other Intel stalwarts figure that AMD will find a way to screw up again, but I would rather not depend on that. If I'm wrong and Intel somehow gets its profit machine back in gear, I will get back in the stock.

Richard