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To: Eugene Goodman who wrote (18416)	4/10/1998 12:03:00 AM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24154

Rest assured, Gene, I've been through the "I hate Microsoft" thing about a billion times. How could I hate a company I find so vastly amusing? Unlike Bill, I do not expect Windows to be replaced "in a day" by some "bright innovator". It's with us for a long time, for better or worse. As to love, you'll have to correspond with those who've publicly expressed their love for Microsoft. As for Lessig, I find it a bit ironic for you to give me the old love/hate line and then come back with a line like this: To bitch about loosing your bookmarks is really childish. it sounds just like Haahvud. Subtle, deft sycophancy. It sounds like he was hustling for consulting work. Mama, Mama I want to sue Microsoft for 10 billion dollars. They made me loose my bookmarks. No lets get all of the states A G, the DOJ to join us in the law suit and we'll make it 80 billion. All of it to the lawyers and the politicians. You can trust lawyers and politicians\| Right. First of all, Lessig is an academician. Second, he clerked on the Supreme Court (for that noted commie liberal pinko, Scalia), which if you know anything about legal education, means he's no dummy, and could make a lot better than an academic salary without trying real hard. Third, he taught at "the Chicago School", and clerked for that other well known commie liberal pinko Possner, which means that even if his views on antitrust aren't exactly up to Objectivist snuff, he's been plenty exposed what's considered the best academic version of free market ideology around, and held his own well among that kind to move up professionally. Look up the relatively brief list of Nobel Laureates in Econ, and check their academic affiliations. Oh, one more thing. When the browser is an application, like it oughta be in the old-line CS view of the world, you don't usually have to worry about conflicts with different versions laying around, they can all coexist peacefully, without interference, and you don't have to worry about any of them messing up your OS and crashing your machine or necessitating the old reformat/reinstall either. When the browser is "integrated" like IE4, it doesn't quite work that way. Pity, that. You want to talk childish wah-wah, talk about Bill, the ever innovative software engineer. Who seems committed to brilliantly representing himself in this legal matter also. And Microsoft in general, which never hesitates to send in the legal eagles on little guys that can't afford to defend themselves, like anybody with nt in their domain name, or some guy selling "you will be assimilated" T-shirts. You can trust lawyers and politicians? Not particularly, but I trust Bill less. He's got less effective competition, fewer checks and balances. Cheers, Dan.

To: Eugene Goodman who wrote (18416)	4/10/1998 3:38:00 AM
From: Bill Ulrich	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 24154

Gene, I think you're missing a small point here. &#147&#133believe me when I say that IE & Nav have now have become almost idiot proof. Even so, I have a backup file of favorites. To bitch about loosing your bookmarks is really childish.&#148 The small point is that people who use computers to make a living need stuff that actually works&#151it's not just about some silly bookmarks. Here's a small example&#151the example, in itself, is small and insignificant but demonstrates the flaw in your thought. I just did a project for a client last week and upon completion I needed to delete a 100mb of temp material that I put in a folder on the desktop. Windoze sez, "Sorry, can't delete this 'cuz it's shared." So, the idiot within me&#151remember, the guy for whom you assert MSFT has made Windoze idiot-proof&#151well, I figure I'll go into 'properties' and disable the sharing of that folder. Well, dummy me&#151'Properties' sez the folder isn't even being shared. So now what? Is it shared or not? Heck, you would think the system shouldn't give conflicting answers. Windoze is still a crap hack attempt at an OS and that 100mb would still be there on my client's desktop but a solution was reached&#151we shut down his network temporarily to clear whatever was confusing the system; anything we did with the client machine wasn't working. Hey&#151now there's a solution! Shut down a network to clear off a folder that mistakenly thinks it's being shared. Brilliant engineering. Mind you, as I said, this is a small example, but I run into a dozens of similar examples all the time where Windoze just is plain idiotic. It matters to me because I actually need to be on a computer every hour of the day to make money. I don't just use it to send email and post inane statements on SI. I can't waste time fiddling with MSFT "idiot-proof" bloatware&#151I need to get stuff done. Furthermore, as to &#147&#1333.0 was almost there, 3.1 was it.&#148 Yeah right. That's why so much effort was expended to make Win95 a Mac wannabe&#151and they still didn't get it right. Wanna take another stab at it? You do use this stuff every hour of every day to make a living I take it? -MrB&#153