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To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (9756)	4/14/1998 7:49:00 PM
From: Gauguin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

Seduction by an older of a younger is unethical, for sure. Downright disgusting. I can't understand that kind of drive to prey, but it obviously exists, and young people need to expect its coming. (And the attempt of a younger to seduce an elder is one of the more annoying behaviors we're ever going to see.) "Seduction" of one 16-17 by another isn't unethical, imo, it's normal. (And I'm not saying it has to succeed, or can't be deflected.) (It's why I still have MJ's mini-dresses.) It's the "victim" and "I'm too stupid and/or horny to know what's happening to me" endorsement that I would like to see separated. "Hey, you! This is SEX you're experiencing. That's a girl, this is a boner, and that's a clue!." I was conscious every time I was in someone's.....grasp. Clutches. (You might even say hyper-aware.) And still I knew what was happening, that I was responsible, that I was not a victim of biology, or lust, or Cynthia or Mrs Bigsley. I don't know who taught me that, because my parents wouldn't/didn't discuss sex. You can just go ahead and decide to do something that's really stupid or dangerous anyway, but, that's what it is. A decision, I mean. You are there. And you should have been expecting it for a long time, and getting ready for it and thinking it through, so you are happy with the outcome. Be prepared (Boy Scouts again.) And hopefully those who've gone before have helped you get ready and know what to expect. Little kids should know there are weirdos out there, and I mean sex weirdos, and what to do, and 13 year olds should be expecting everything. Deciding not to act in an extreme manner, hopefully. But deciding; getting familiar with that weighing and pondering and expecting process. Accepting defense, and/or consequences. And we should also have options and skills in dealing with drive. Of which we are unashamed. No point in going nutso trying to reconcile all this and ending up in a life of politics. jmho ~ I got lucky so I can spout off. PS, Alex, I didn't recall your saying anything I disagreed with; so I have no difference of opinion, just typing away for the heck of it.