To: Grainne who wrote (20425 ) 4/15/1998 1:35:00 AM From: WalleyB Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
Well, I think small children should be with their parents, definitely. I think all the experiments like the kibbutz and communal living where the children don't stay with their parents, are very radical, and I don't think they work particularly well, in the sense of what the child needs. On that we agree. Are there any primitive societies like this?.... Humans intinctivly teach their young from early ages, primitive, suburban and urban families of all stripes and colors. The things done and taught differ from culture to country to tradition. The things you mention in this section of your post reveal that but are passive forms of expression to the young of the families. Hugging and kisses do likewise. I wonder how it came to be that children were taught their parents' belief systems? Are there any societies where that is not the case? Given the need for survival and the fear that the village on the other side of the hill may come down and kill you for your lands, crops and or make you into slaves it behooved the peoples to make of themselves one unit of common bond. There have always been and will always be tyrants and power hungry countries that want what other have. History is replete with the examples. Thus e family unit teaches the children the common bonding traditions of the tribe or country and the country survives or is crushed depending on what values they imbibe and practice. It doesn't seem like we need those very much anymore in the global village, though. What on earth makes you think that the UN can remedy anything. There will always be wars and power mad rulers and corruption. There will always be greed, lust and pride. How do you breed it out of the human condition? You can't cause its a matter of the free will of a human to be what ever they want and to take the opportunity to fulfill their desires at the moment they can feel reasonably assured of winning the goal. I know that teaching your children your own beliefs is not instinctual, however, because not all parents do it. Maybe the United Nations could address the issue! ;^) They spend fortunes and what do they have to show for it? They create calendars with myriad's of days of remembrances. Never was there a more useless bunch of puss on the global front than the UN. How many countless millions have died while the nations looked on and muttered incantations of pronouncements. I dread the day when this county gives a measure of its sovereignty to them. I think it would be better now that we are so globally oriented, to have more harmony and less fighting, and everyone choosing a belief system would definitely spread them out so there were more opportunities for common understandings, and less for polarization. I wish for the day when people can respect each other's differences and be able to discuss the variations of beliefs without conflict. I don't however see that day on this or any century's horizon. Another really good reason to do this is that everyone everywhere would realize their religion was a belief system, not concrete reality, and perhaps there would be more tolerance and acceptance because of that. Everyone's belief system, hmmm. that means all systems, the system of supernatural and the system of the natural. If neither is to be thought of as concrete or reality based then no one can base any part of their life on anything. The result would be a collapse of identify. Those age old questions: who am I, where did I come from and where am I going? Would stir the heart into a frenzy and reduce us to blithering idiots if we were unable to express the answers into some kind of system of belief. It's like a friend of mine tells me when ever we meet an impasse in a debate. Everyone has their right to an opinion even if they are wrong. jim