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Gold/Mining/Energy : GPW Group West Systems Ltd. (Year 2000 Software Company) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Mr. Forthright who wrote (381)4/17/1998 9:17:00 AM
From: Pierre J. LeBel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1443
 
Mr Forthright, what is your hidden agenda?

Even since joining SI a few days ago, you have been extremely negative on Group West Systems. Why?

We do not see you on other Y2K threads. Why?

If you were honest, you would explain why Viasoft dropped by 50% in early April, after they warned Wall Street that their earnings would be less than half the previous analysts estimates. It has nothing to do with GPW.

Once again, Mr Forthright, what is your real hidden agenda?

Pierre



To: Mr. Forthright who wrote (381)4/17/1998 9:28:00 AM
From: BM  Respond to of 1443
 
If you're going to compare Y2K companies, I respectfully suggest that you compare apples to apples - there are sub-sectors even within Y2K companies with some doing much better than others.

Peritus and Viasoft are primarily tool vendors - they have been taking a hit lately because realization is setting in that companies do not have the time to organize themselves, shop for an appropriate tool or set of tools, learn how to use it/them and then do the conversion work.

The companies doing very well are those in the professional services sector such as CGI Group, Cognicase, LGS etc. who can relieve the organization of a lot of the headaches and get the job done.

While GPW also shops the INTO200 tool and can be considered a vendor, it is primarily a professional services firm and would consider it a cross between LGS and Cognicase.



To: Mr. Forthright who wrote (381)4/17/1998 11:21:00 AM
From: AuldDruid  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1443
 
Good examples of poor companies, but I have been beaten into a fundamentalist by the likes of Templeton and Buffet, to the point where I focus on the value of the company I'm looking at and minimize my attention to other companies, be they failing or successful, or momentum(sometimes to my dismay). For instance, I'm not basing my investment in GPW on the share price of Cognicase or CGI Systems, both of which are also comparable companies as you suggest, but much more successful as measured by share price. Nor do I want to get into a company war where I waste my time finding good examples and you waste yours finding bad. Bursting bubbles aside, GPW is a company with good fundamentals that has a terrific and growing baseline software business underlying the Y2K phenomenum. In fact, if you check around, you'll hardly find any mention of Group West anywhere in the Y2K bubble, they've done it on their own. If Y2K allows them to gain the financing to grow and expand market share, I say more power to them! I've done tons(tonnes in Canada) of my own work, and the only thing I can find wrong with GPW is that it is growing very very fast with too many customers, but this is a resolvable problem that most companies would like to have! Have you done anything specific to look at the fundamentals of GPW? Have you obtained an investor's information kit, or the original IPO on the VSE( I think the secondary offering kit must also be around somewhere by now, but I'm still trying to find one myself). I believe that if you look at the fundamentals, you will be convinced that it is at least a worthwhile investment for the rest of us, even if you choose not to invest yourself. The combined professionalism of this thread, and a comparable one over on Stockhouse is very impressive. But, have a go, and let us know!

As an aside, you commented that Thomson Kernaghan was a "3rd tier" brokerage. I thought they were a pretty well respected member of the TSE. Is there something negative about TK that we should know? I've never heard of the term in the industry, unless you were just meaning the general sports disparagement "3rd string team". Can you support this comment? Is it because they are on the Canadian TSE, which is thought of as 3rd string to the NYSE and NASDAQ?

Murray



To: Mr. Forthright who wrote (381)4/17/1998 11:33:00 AM
From: L. D.  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1443
 
I cannot help myself but smile when I read your distorted way of rationalizing particular stock movements. Thank you for being such a God's gift to us little dumb investors. Without you we would probably never survive these "shark" infested waters.
I gather that NNC on TSE is a lousy company as well, judging by the recent sudden drop in the stock price ?
Brilliant, just brilliant.
Could it be that you went short on GPW at much lower levels and are beginning to violently shake in your boots ? And you should, if you knew anything about GPW's share structure you'd probably reconsider. Shorting a stock with such a tight float is just plain insanity especially in light of a trend of acquisitions and takeovers that are taking place in the technology sector.Just recently, one of the local technology companies without any revenues to speak of, was bought out by NorTel for a whopping 500 million dollars. I'm not suggesting that GPW is a takeover target but one has to take every possible scenarios into consideration. It appears to me that you Mr. Forthright have a hero that you choose to blindly follow , someone who's initials are DL. Based on that I presume that you are nothing else but his BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
Have a nice day.