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To: Matt Brown who wrote (3833)	4/17/1998 9:10:00 PM
From: TraderGreg	Respond to of 6654

What your missing Matt is this. After the reverse of 300 to 1 , there ain't enough shares in the float to get the NASDAQ. But here's the problem, they print shares and the price falls. So like the little Dutch boy, they plug one leak and another happens. That is why all us peons long ago said to Jack, get the price up first then do a smaller reverse so you get a higher price and still have more than 1million in the float with a $5mm float value. Do some accretive stuff first, then do the reverse. They just didn't get it...maybe they will now. Look, maybe these guys will be the Rasputin/Lazarus of the market. But I subscribe to an old adage that usually works: "Fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice, shame on me." I will wait a long time before doing anything else, they may or may not undo this damage. At this price, it definitely still ain't worth the risk. I sold this and bought more CSMA, if only for quick pops, and bought some TNRG. You got to play the positives and not dead cat bounces. TG

To: Matt Brown who wrote (3833)	4/17/1998 9:17:00 PM
From: Leroy Chandler	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6654

Matt: Sad to say, CVIA/WOTD made a BIG mistake, too late, most shareholder din't panic, they acted on "PRINCIAPAL NOT ON EMOTION". you can paint it any color you want, it was a wrong moved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and CVIA/WOTD will suffer for their BIG MISTAKE! IMO IMO Arnold is a astute talker, don't fall for it, remember act on principal and you always be right. I am a firm believer always to be a lealist. Leroy

To: Matt Brown who wrote (3833)	4/17/1998 9:38:00 PM
From: K A Anderson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6654

Hey Matt, Good to have you back, hope the spring break was fun. Each company and each stock move has so many variables that back them, its really tough to see the end result many times. Some times its almost like trying to put a puzzle togather. My best piece of advice to ANY ONE of ANY AGE is to take some of your profits and go buy a stock brokers series 7 study guide... seriously. They arent cheap usually around $150 to $200, but study it in your spare time, and in no time you will have picked up ALL of the possibilities, end results and how these "securities tools" work and the end results of how they are employed. Its the best reference guide you'll ever find. (mine is about 20 years old and still used all the time. Its my all time best investment LOL) A plus is if you really study it closely, one of these days you might have the chance take take the series 7 test, if you ever wanted it. KAA

To: Matt Brown who wrote (3833)	4/18/1998 12:21:00 AM
From: D LEE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6654

I have a few thoughts from your submission to the AOL Board But I'll have to write a while! Mostly, I think it depends on what style of player you are, and your appear to play more of a professional role than most. They take it seriously all right, but as you know the value of the outcome, (a successful WOTD), the type of discomfort you are feeling is different than others.(will get you farther too!) Others are naturally going for the money from a shell rescue effort. Nothing wrong with that, and will continue to hold as they see fit. I think you are more interested in the concept of WOTD itself not the shell, though the shell is one avenue towards ownership of WOTD stock. I also think your main goal was to possess a good portion of the company and let it grow in your hands, so to speak. The main thing is that the owner/owners of the WOTD concept want to possess as much of it as possible too. And these guys are smart. They need something like the CVIA shell, but why pay more than necessary for it. (And this is the type of people you want running the company you hold shares in. They go up BEST, and you go up too!) I think the trouble is that investors aren't given the privilege to short penny stocks. -This leaves the field opened to the companies themselves to take advantage of; and the roll of the "speculator" is fulfilled. He accepts harder odds on the hope he will beat them. The company likes the odds, and takes advantage of them if smart. All this creates stability where there is none, or nearly none. (The cost usually falls on the speculator).(not always). Which is more important to WOTD at this very moment? 1) getting CVIA cheap as possible 2) getting on NASDAQ If I was a shrude tough operator, I would let CVIA flounder for a moment, then pick it up. Then go for NASDAQ if I felt like it. But I don't really think the fate of WOTD entering NASDAQ hangs on CVIA in any sort of long run. That's WOTD's responsibility! It might even be to my advantage to pretend NASDAQ was necessary to create the illusion that CVIA Shareholders must willingly accept a split right now so WOTD CAN FLOURISH. The result is obvious, and orchestrated, and not Jacks fault despite his release on Apr 14 before tax day. Am I at risk suggesting WOTD could plan this way, after all, you don't necessarily compliment the seller of a used car before buying it if you want the price knocked down. That's how my intuition is treating things right now, but the creativity of their ideas is being hidden during this and there is doubt. This is a temporary sellers market for cvia shareholders where the future success of WOTD remains to be seen and merger remains behind closed doors. It is not the long run situation, and a clear head is necessary. From this scribbling it's easy to understand investor nervousness since the 14th and also the need to relay thoughts for everyone to watch things play out with some degree of calmness like you did Matt. And for the benefit of true investors quite a valuable service. Rather than experiencing trouble in any beginners course because of the temporary action taken by WOTD (that has shaken everyone a bit); More like "a slight stumble in a grad class". Not to perk the spirit, so much as to say, Investor, you will have the portion of WOTD you want on your terms. It's just a matter of time. I think it was a very good comment Matt! I just had to write this down to think about it, let alone judge what you had to say. Cause everyone thinks different. sorry so long! Dave