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To: Susan Saline who wrote (14001)4/18/1998 1:09:00 PM
From: Ron McKinnon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 53068
 
Z Portfolio

While I am chewing on this I thought I would toss out some random thoughts
Most have been said before

My view is that there are four kinds of accounts

Trading
for trades lasting 30 seconds to a few days max in duration

Short Term
a few days to say 60 days or so, a bit longer if a position continues to run and the green light stays on
concentrated positions that are watched daily

Intermediate Term
typically "position" trades
time frame one to six months or so
hold as long as no negative F/A change and as long as certain T/A criteria is not broken

Long Term
for strong, long term winners
hold for six months to death
hold as long as the F/A is in place
regardless of the daily/weekly/monthly girations

I think that the intent of our Z portfolio was short term

jmho that:

a 1-2% position makes no sense
I think each position should be in the area of say $30-60,000
even higher for a "runner"; smaller if the sponsor has been selling down a position but wants to hold a piece for an additional gain

we should dump stocks that fail on a fundamental basis or short term T/A
examples:
BAY is "busted, as is IOM
there does not appear to be a compelling case to make that would suggest a meaningful turn in the next few weeks/months
so they should be dumped to raise cash for better plays

time frame
if we can not make a case for a decent gain over the next few weeks to a month we should look for better picks
examples:
LNET; Dan makes a strong case for an eventual pop due to solid support and big insider buying

analysis
I don't think we should have positions that are bought and then not followed up with at least a once a week brief input giving the sponsors mind set on the position, fundamentals, T/A
the purpose of this exercise is so that we all can learn and do better in our own real life trades
I just don't see how any of us can learn by simply looking at a portfolio and not having a clue why a stock was bought and less of an idea why it continues to be held
most here do a great job of explaining each trade; they are the people that I learn from; other positions I simply ignore and carp to myself about tying up "our" money

# of positions
I still think each of us should limit ourselves to a select number of positions or a maximum amount of the portfolios dollars
for two reasons
first, by limiting the # each of us will be forced to be a bit more selective; for the entry buy and in determining the duration of a hold
second, this might help in allowing some buying power so others(Nemer, Marion, others hint-hint-hint) can pick a stock for us to watch and learn from

This thread and the Z portfolio has helped me to be a much better trader and to improve my results
but lately, I honestly have to say that the value has diminished due lack of meaningful input

the real time interaction between the "Zer's" on mirc is just the best for daily ideas, fast profits, and fun during the heat of the market
but this is a far better forum for detailed input, sector analysis, and longer term positions
the reduction in posts here is a loss to all of us

PS
plus, I'm in a pissy mood cause my trading has sucked the last few weeks
gggggggggg