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To: Hans-Erik Eriksson who wrote (9971)	4/20/1998 11:57:00 AM
From: Jocelyn Ally	Respond to of 10836

Hans-Erik: >So a "Borland Solution" would be JBuilder IDE + VisiBroker + Object >Transaction Service + Enterprise JavaBeans + DB Integration tools. >Sounds good to me! SUNW,BEA,ORCL etc. can't provide such a complete >solution, they all have their weak spots. And hopefully Borland can >implement some more CORBAservices and sell as add-ons. Yes, exactly what I have in mind. >How about a repository product and a modeling tool as well ? >Or will they just "integrate" with repositories from MSFT or >ORCL, and Rational Rose from RATL ? This is interesting. See my prior post with article on Oracle tools. I think Rational is siding more with MS and IONA. Persistence Software has an App server called PowerTier that was developped in teaming with IONA and RATL. So, we have IONA & RATL & MS & Persistence Oracle is coming with a repo and a modeling tool. Rumor has it that Borland is involved in this modeling tool (don't remember url) and we read that BORL wants to licence DCOM. Borland wants to be "neutral". We read that Jbuilder/AppBuilder becoming more important at Oracle. What will Borland do ? Really, puzzling, but would think they side with the "pure" gang of ORCL, SUNW, IBM wrt to java/corba so that they can push into the enterprise right Now. Again, only a bunch of speculation.. Awaiting some light on Apr29 Jocelyn

To: Hans-Erik Eriksson who wrote (9971)	4/20/1998 12:04:00 PM
From: Jocelyn Ally	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10836

WRT Borland and Rational: It is somewhat stunning there is not more integration between the products of these 2 corp. Both are targetting the same market and have very complimentary products, but at the same time, all the design, lifecycle and testing products from RATL do not seem to have that much integration for Borland tools out of the box. Rational seems to concentrate more on the MS tools: VB, VC nowadays. Jocelyn

To: Hans-Erik Eriksson who wrote (9971)	4/20/1998 4:14:00 PM
From: Philip Copeland	Respond to of 10836

Hans, I spent some time at JavaOne trying to fathom Suns strategy with Corba? Its not easy to comprehend! I did discover that the ORB that's included in Java 1.2 has very limited functionality and does not support many of the standard Corba services. It provides client side Corba connectivity - but from what they said - you will have to buy some additional JavaSoft Corba product if you want to develop server side Corba objects. In addition it seems to only support Java - ie no C++ support was discussed. I felt that if anything this is going to help Borland - particularly after they make their product announcements next week. Philip Copeland

To: Hans-Erik Eriksson who wrote (9971)	4/20/1998 6:35:00 PM
From: Philip Copeland	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10836

Hans-Erik, I think your speculation is "spot-on". One area that's very exciting that Borland has a very significant lead on the market is their AppCenter - Application/Component management product. With all the Corba/EJB applications/components being developed its vital that good "application" centric management tools are available. No one at JavaOne had anything close to AppCenter's functionality. It will be a good differentiator for quite some time. Philip Copeland