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Seagate's Al Shugart has used up a fair number of his nine lives. Maybe that's why he's more willing to share power now.
The Seagate saga
By Mary Beth Grover
WALL STREET does not much care for Alan Shugart, the chairman of Seagate Technology. Just one brokerage house rates this manufacturer of disk drives a buy. Analysts can find plenty to dislike in Seagate's financials: The company lost $423 million over the last two quarters. Its stock is down 42% over the past year. And look at Seagate's president and chief operating officer. He's Stephen Luczo, a 41-year-old ex-investment banker with no experience in manufacturing operations.
Shugart, 67, shrugs at the criticism: "It was tougher in the mid- 1980s when we were out of cash." IBM, his largest customer, started making its own disk drives. "I went to New York," he laughs, "going to all the banks trying to get a loan. They kept sending us to their workout departments-you know, to the guys who deal with bad loans."
Seagate survived that one, and Shugart has risen and fallen many times in his 47 years in the computer business. He recovered sufficiently from the IBM loss to make his Scotts Valley, Calif.-based firm the largest in its industry, with revenues of $9 billion in fiscal 1997. Along the way, he survived boardroom fights, nasty venture capitalists and three stockholder lawsuits from William Lerach (in two of which Lerach extracted money).
A native of California, Shugart, in 1969, left a cushy job directing systems development engineering at IBM's headquarters in Harrison, N.Y. When you visit him in his Seagate office and see his Hawaiian shirt and cobalt-blue pants, you wonder how he lasted as long as he did in the starchy IBM of those days.
Shugart moved back to the West Coast and eventually founded a disk drive company (Shugart Associates, later sold to Xerox), only to be kicked out by his venture capitalists. Fed up with high-tech, he ran a bar and a fishing boat until he started Seagate with just $10,000. When he launched the company, he was 50 years old, ancient by Silicon Valley standards.
At 60, he was in a donnybrook with his former employer. IBM sued him for hiring away the engineer who was heading up its development of magneto-resistive heads, which allow denser data storage. Shugart's response was to call IBM executives "dirty rotten bastards." The 1994 settlement of the case included a cross-licensing agreement.
Shugart has mellowed a bit. He has been more willing to share power. He has given a lot of authority to his new number two, a dealmaker imported from Bear, Stearns & Co. Luczo has spent the past four years pushing Seagate into software.
Through acquisitions, Luczo has assembled a $250 million subsidiary that specializes in programs to control data storage. "The naysayers said we'd never buy anything, and then we started buying stuff," says Luczo. "Then they said, 'Well, you'll never be able to integrate them and pull together the technology.' We have, and we'll have even more by this time next year."
Software certainly looks like a greener pasture than hard drives. Not only is making disk drives highly cyclical, but every six months there's a new drive out that costs 20% less than the old one yet has 30% more storage. The gross margin is just 15% to 20%-and that's in a good year- while in software it can be 90%.
Successful software could also give a big boost to Seagate's lagging stock. Its market capitalization is just two-thirds of sales; successful software outfits trade at five times sales.
Corporate data processing departments spend a lot of their time backing up data and creating reports. Seagate has backup software that automates these two unglamorous tasks.
You tell a computer to, say, back up this server every hour, but that server every day. Seagate has a bit less of this market than Computer Associates' Cheyenne but sees an opportunity to close the gap. Seagate's back-up software is bundled on Microsoft's increasingly popular NT platform. NT is growing 50% a year, versus 2% for Novell's NetWare, in which competitor Cheyenne has the edge, says market-watcher IDC in Framingham, Mass.
Seagate is number one in report-writing software. The selling pitch: It's so easy to use that ordinary folk can bypass the data processing department and get their own custom reports on sales or accounts payable or whatever. At Bankers Trust, the portfolio management department alone generates 70,000 reports a month. Bankers signed up with Seagate's Crystal Info software last December. Seagate hauls in roughly $400,000 to $2 million of revenue per Crystal Info client.
Luczo's goal is for sales of the software division to be $1 billion within the next few years. In the meantime, he reckons, a public offering of a minority stake would make the division more visible on Wall Street.
Now comes the tough part. In October Luczo took day-to-day control of the disk drive division.
Here, Luczo has his work cut out for him: Last year Seagate's share in the lucrative server market dropped from 63% to 39%. This business accounts for 50% of revenue and, estimates BancAmerica Robertson Stephens analyst Patrick Tenney, 70% of gross profit.
Luczo expects Seagate to be in the black by the end of the year. He cut 10,000 jobs and consolidated the company's design centers from five to three. ?He even dared to challenge Shugart's bold move of eight years ago to integrate backward. Shugart thought that making drive heads and other components in-house was the best way to cut costs. Luczo thought that policy was out of date: These days it is often cheaper to pit one vendor against another than it is to try to make things yourself. Furthermore, outsourcing makes it easier to take advantage of new technologies and products developed elsewhere in this fast-changing business.
Now if Luczo can only stay on Shugart's good side.
Shugart's falling out with his number two men is legendary. Finis Conner, who founded the company with Shugart in 1974, left in 1984 after quarreling with Shugart about when to introduce a new drive. David (Tom) Mitchell, another cofounder, left in 1991 after Seagate hit a bad patch. On his way out, Mitchell tried to convince the board it was Shugart's fault, but failed.
Mitchell later joined forces with Conner, who had gone on to found Conner Peripherals. Shugart had the last laugh. He bought Conner in 1996. Conner and Shugart are neighbors in ritzy Pebble Beach, but they aren't friends.
The indications are that Shugart is now more willing to share power. He and Luczo play air hockey on a table in Luczo's office one door down the hall.
"Al and I get along," says Luczo, "because I never bullshit him. I felt some of his [former] management teams hadn't been totally straight because they were always afraid of what happens if they tell the chief executive he's wrong."
Will Shugart take it if Luczo argues with him? There are no guarantees when strong personalities interact, but there's a lot riding on whether this partnership can work.
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