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To: mark silvers who wrote (14361)	4/21/1998 3:23:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Mark, You said:"How could I have grown up in one of the largest Jewish areas in the United States, gone to both public and Hebrew Schools for many years, and neither any of my friends nor myself have ever encountered any of the teachings you that you claim are a fundamental and basic part of the Jewish religion? " Everything I said about Talmudic Judaism and the Babylonian Talmud is true. I have verified everything I talk about. Every sincere Christian and Jew can and probably will eventually verify my words. Hard truth often stirs the emotions, but in the long run liberates honest men from error. The truths that I have spoken about the Babyloian Talmud and modern Judaism are important because they demonstrate that modern Judaism is not the religion of the Hebrews of the Old Testament, but rather a religion that was created through rebellion against God and His Messianic salvation, and the pride of men. Modern Talmudic Judaism is the incarnation of the satanic spirit. In the Eden, Adam only rebelled and conspired with Satan; in modern Talmudic Judaism man attempts to destroy God and grab His Kingdom--it is the epitome of infamy. Modern talmudic Judaism enshrines and glorifies the rebellion and attmpts to impose it upon mankind by forging a false kingdom in Palestine in opposition to God and Jesus' Kingdom. That is the essence of modern Talmudic Judaism. Rebellion against God. (The beast was killed but now it lives and it is producing what seems to be miracles in reestablishing this false kingdom in moder Israel. Many are being deceived as prophecied.) This is why I am compelled to proclaim this message. As to the statement that neither you nor one of your friends ever heard a negative statement from modern Judaism about Jesus, I must say I do not believe you. Of course, if you consider telling God and Jesus that they are liars, fakes and pretenders acceptable language, then you may be telling the truth. When you reject Jesus as the Messiah and Son of God, you are denigrating Gods' character and calling Him a liar. The Rabbinical education goes far beyond just denying Jesus, they actually make up a whole set of fables in their Toledot Yeshua--the life of Jesus. This is not suprissing to Christians since we are warned about these "Jewish Falbes" in many places in the New Testament. I have verified from the Babylonian Talmud myself that these horrible words exist, and I have also verified that they are tautht even today in the Rabbinical Schools. Mr. Frydland's account is 100% accurate. Are these Babylonian ideas prevalent in the Jewish community and among every Jew? No. I have also verified that most Jews younger than 50 are not aware of many of the teachings of the Babylonian Talmud. But all Jews who hold to modern Judaism are aware of the central theme that they must reject Jesus as the Messiah, the Son of God and the Saviour of mankind. When you considered yourself a Jews, you also knew that you had to reject Jesus. I subscribed to number of the major Jewish publication intended for Jews in the U.S. The largest Jewish newspaper intended for Jews in America is the Jewish PRess. It is a weekly newspaper and read by more Jews than any other Jewish newspaper in America. I read this Jewish newspaper for several years and found in almost every issue they were teaching the hard "Jewish Fables" about Jesus and extreme hatred aginst Christians. They openly endorsed Rabbi Meir Kahane 100%. As far as the common Jews never hearing about or learninhg the other central doctrines of hatred from the Talmud, I was not supprised. A large majority of people who call themselves Christians do not know the teachings of the Christian Faith in the OT and NT as well as the Church Fathers and Christians calssics. Finally, I would like to say a word about Judaism in Chicago. I lived in Chicago for over 10 years in the 60s and 70s and was introudced to Rabbi Kahane first hand. He held meeting in North Chicago and Skokie where thousands of Jews attended and applauded widely as he talked about the teachings of the Talmud and the necessity of following those teachings. Your comments indicate that you are an extremely sheltered individual or you are simply not telling the truth. I also doubt if you know or if you have ever asked all your Jewish friends if they knew the teachings of the Talmud. If you are an honest seeker, than I recommend that you verify the facts I have spoken. If you found that my words were true, then believe them. If they are false then reject them. Do not judge them until you sincerely attempt to verify them.

To: mark silvers who wrote (14361)	4/21/1998 5:49:00 PM
From: Chris land	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

<<How could I have grown up in one of the largest Jewish areas in the United States, gone to both public and Hebrew Schools for many years, and neither any of my friends nor myself have ever encountered any of the teachings you that you claim are a fundamental and basic part of the Jewish religion? >> Mark, weren't you taught that if a Jew converts to Christianity then that person is considered dead by most, if not all of their relatives? Sometimes a funeral is even held, what mockery is made of that persons new found faith in Jesus Christ. Is God supposed to be pleased? Take a moment to look at the contrast. A sinner receives Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior over his life and is born again. The angels, which constantly behold the face of God are so enraptured over this persons salvation that they simple explode with joy. They literally have a party in heaven because another soul is saved. Another lost sheep has been found and is being brought to the fold of God. The angels see God's pleasure and reflect it with manifestations of joy, another son/daughter of Adam has been delivered from destruction. Now back to earth. The saved person's relatives are dressed in black, the air is dismal, clammy, cold and grey. A few, out of sympathy to the family come to mourn around an unseen funeral casket. who those two hooded ones in the background are nobody knows, it's assumed they must be distant relations. " All hope is lost, "My Jewish son/daughter is no longer a part of our heritage, he/she has disassociated themself with the faith of our fathers and has become a Christian. All our hopes dreams, and cherished memories are forever vanished." Are the people that do this the "apple of God's eye?" Absolutely not, and unless they repent God is going to "rend them in pieces". Believe this or not, many Jewish people are willing to give up their own flesh and blood over a heritage that they don't fully understand. As a matter of fact many of these people had never even read the scriptures in their life. I have never heard of such a vicious hatred in all of my life. This is hatred in the worst degree and yet I never see you speaking out against it. Why not? Didn't you ever question this behavior from people who consider themselves holier than the rest of mankind? When you went to school were you just to scared to mention this to the Rabbis, lest you be ostracized? What, you didn't know these things took place? Well if you had known and decided to take a stand against it then rest assured that your Rabbis would have been in your face "firmly instructing you of the basic and fundamental parts of Jewish religion". Personally I'm of the opinion that you and your friends, like most children never even discussed religion and if you did it was at a very limited level. -Chris