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To: ken whited who wrote (701)4/20/1998 8:38:00 PM
From: Ken Sammut  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4155
 
I have confidence in CNC but would prefer that they would cancel the deal with GNT. The street still does not like it. GNT is trading several dollars under the merge price which would indicate a lot of others think it will not happen.

Too many good sound companies they can go after like CCR.

>>GreenTree 1997-E Off S&PWatch; Downgrades B-2 Certificates

NEW YORK, April 20 /PRNewswire/ -- Standard & Poor's today removed its ratings on all certificate classes of GreenTree Financial Corp. series 1997-E from CreditWatch, following GreenTree Financial Corp.'s rating removal from CreditWatch.

At the same time, Standard & Poor's lowered classes HE:B-2 and HI:B-2 to triple-'B'-minus from triple-'B'-plus. These ratings are removed from CreditWatch where they were placed on Jan. 30, 1998 with negative implications, following the placement of GreenTree Financial Corp.'s rating on CreditWatch with negative implications.

The rating downgrades are based on the lowering of GreenTree Financial Corp.'s long-term credit rating to triple-'B'-minus. Both classes are solely supported by guaranty policies issued by GreenTree Financial Corp.

The 1997-E transaction was rated in December 1997, and consisted of approximately 5,986 home improvement loans totaling about $107.28 million, of which approximately 2.87% are FHA-insured Title I loans, and approximately 8,597 home equity loans totaling about $434.99 million.

Additional pool characteristics for the home improvement loans at the time of closing, include a weighted average coupon rate of 11.22% and a weighted average term to scheduled maturity of 209 months. Additional pool information for the home equity loans at the time of closing include a weighted average coupon rate of 11.80%, and a weighted average term to scheduled maturity of 235 months, Standard & Poor's said. -- CreditWire

SOURCE Standard & Poor's CreditWire

CO: GreenTree Financial Corp.

ST: New York

IN: FIN

SU: RTG

04/20/98 16:34 EDT prnewswire.com



To: ken whited who wrote (701)4/21/1998 1:52:00 AM
From: dougjn  Respond to of 4155
 
Having bought Gnt in the mid 20s, aft blowup, I was quite happy, thanks much. <g> Sold immediately on offer announce of course.

I suspect there is a good chance deal won't go through.

Doug



To: ken whited who wrote (701)4/21/1998 8:31:00 AM
From: John Carragher  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 4155
 
Ken
I don't blame you... I'm a gnt holder and glad you came around. It bailed me out big time. sorry John



To: ken whited who wrote (701)4/23/1998 8:05:00 PM
From: JM  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4155
 
Ken;
As of today, no response from IR at CNC. Not surprising, though CNC earnings due april 29 I believe. Lets see if the EPS can get this stock back on track.