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To: Kerry Lee who wrote (15817)4/20/1998 10:08:00 PM
From: Louie Liu  Respond to of 29386
 
IGS

Kerry.

Thanks for your comments on IGS and OEMs. When I was
doing some research on ADSL I found that IGS is the
largest internet provider. I think the main reason
we don't hear a lot about them is because their
services are resold by other people such as PacBell,
Ameritech.

Regards

Louie



To: Kerry Lee who wrote (15817)4/21/1998 4:06:00 AM
From: Pigboy  Respond to of 29386
 
<< Roy Sardina spoke months ago about Brocade selling IBM a
stripped down 8 port switch at $1,000/port. >>

Is this true Kerry or Roy? I believe Brocade lists their 8 port switch at $2000.oo per port. I thought that was expensive at first glance.

From,

techweb.com


<< SilkWorm Express is available at $16,000. Web Tools and Brocade SES ship in May. >>

And, here's an interesting quote

<< "What switches did to hubs in the LAN is inevitable in the SAN
(server/storage area network) as well," said Brocade director of product management
Jack Rubinson. "There will always be a place for a low-priced hub, but dedicated
bandwidth is finding increasing importance in Fibre Channel applications." >>

I wondered what Roy thought about the switch vs. hub comment?

all imho
pigboy



To: Kerry Lee who wrote (15817)4/30/1998 10:42:00 AM
From: Eleder2020  Respond to of 29386
 
KL's take on IGS which he posted on April 20. His remarks below:

>>>Louie, thanks for posting the article/link. Rather than shoot from the hip like SI people love to do, I have been doing some digging in past weeks and based on info from Industry sources ( NOT Ancor ), my take is the following:

IMHO, this news with IGS is bigger than most on SI can comprehend.
IGS has assets in many countries, including Europe, US, Canada, Asia,
Latin America, Australia, South America, etc, practically every corner
of the world. IGS provides mostly commercial customers with a complete
end to end solutions, including Internet dial, private IP dial(customers
only can access their own company LAN),host applications, servers
support, Networking support etc. IGS itself has a couple thousand ( +/-) RS/6000s, plus many more it supports throughout the world. It has a hugh marketing force which integrates large to small enterprise networks into IGS's backbone as well as computing resources. Its endorsement of Ancor's switch is like a stamp of approval ( assuming you believe in the accuracy of the article..I have no idea since I have not spoken to any Ancor person for at least a month ). It means a steady revenue stream which will come with the next generation of IBM FC products. Stay tuned.

The IGS relationship is not to be confused with any potential IBM
Storage OEM opportunity which may or may not exist this year. IF IBM
decides to do an OEM(s) deal with a FC switch vendor, I think we are 1-2
quarters away from any decision(s) but I could be wrong. Roy Sardina
spoke months ago about Brocade selling IBM a stripped down 8 port switch
at $1,000/port..That seems rather expensive to me, but for all I know,
Roy could be right. He was bang-on about Storage Technology ( STK )
going with Brocade, however I believe the line he is getting from Sun
about developing their own FC switch is wrong. Brocade won Sun. End of
story. Also, any EMC FC switch is likely to be a McData switch for
obvious reasons.<<<