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To: SE who wrote (40511)4/20/1998 11:12:00 PM
From: ViperChick Secret Agent 006.9  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 58727
 
US options (msft, IBM and Eli L.)
biz.yahoo.com

here is an interesting post

and more than one of us has had our head handed to us for running against the trend

To: +Rainier Trinidad (665 )
From: +Rainier Trinidad
Sunday, Apr 19 1998 12:09PM ET
Reply # of 691

[ Further Analysis ]

To give you a better idea of the cause of my poor performance in the past, I categorized
the losses into certain groups:

By far, the greatest cause of loss was Trading Against The Trend, which accounted
for over 70% of my losses. Another 15% came from being impatient, and the rest was
just being plain dumb. And most of these came from the one year trading period I
undertook to get a better understanding of the dynamics of trading and TA (which came
near the end).

Throughout this period, it was in fact my longer term investments that I took the time to
analyze that was providing me with the majority of the profits to fund my losses.

Embarassiing? Certainly. But I value these experiences more than any of my successes
in the market, for as Primo Levi once said, "More is learned from one's errors than from
one's successes."

What I did to turn the situation around was to (1) Eliminate all trades that ran counter to
the trend and (2) Exert patience and discipline in my trading. These experiences might
explain why I am adamant about trading stocks that only go with the trend.

What has happened now is that (1) My longer term investments continue to provide me
with my profits, and (2) My trading is now providing me with profits as well, now that I
trade with the trend. Both results are showing on the bottom line,whereas before, my
undisciplined hyper-trading outpaced the slow-going profits from my long term
investments.

I think it's scary to expose my past faults and weaknesses on the public forums like this,
especially when a few hundred people read this thread regularly (or so I estimate), but I
believe it's more valuable to pass on these lessons to others than to keep it hidden for
the sake of not looking dumb.

I think some disappointment will be felt by some readers, for I am not omniscient and
infallible. Far from it. I have gone through my period of initiation through loss and
disappointment, but what has transformed me and made me stronger was learning from
these lessons so I don't repeat the mistakes again in the future. "What does not kill me
makes me stronger."

Manage your downside, and attempt to eliminate loss, and you will find success.

To close, let me quote Jack Schwager's conclusions from his interviews with the nation's
top traders in Market Wizards:

1. All those involved had a driving desire to become successful traders--in many
cases, overcoming significant obstacles to reach their goal.

2. All reflected confidence that they could continue to win over the long run.
Almost invariably, they considered their own trading as the best and safest
investment for their money.

3. Each trader had found a methodology that worked for him and remained true
to that approach. It is significant that discipline was the word most frequently
mentioned.

4. The top traders take their trading very seriously; most devote a substantial
amount of their waking hours to market analysis and trading strategy.

5. Rigid risk control is one of the key elements in the trading strategy of virtually
all those interviewed.

6. In a variety of ways, many of the traders stressed the importance of having the
patience to wait for the right trading opportunity to present itself.

7. The importance of acting independent of the crowd was a frequently
emphasized point.

8. All the top traders understand that losing is part of the game.

9. The all love what they are doing.

I think some similarities can be drawn from my development. I intend to become as
successful as those profiled in Market Wizards, and I believe I am on track to achieve
these long term goals.

Regards,

Rainier Trinidad



To: SE who wrote (40511)4/21/1998 6:45:00 AM
From: Patrick Slevin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 58727
 
What I meant was that the earnings forecast was adjusted a couple of times (down), but that should be no surprise.

Thorazine is a drug they give to hyperactive asylum patients to "calm" them.