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To: DLL who wrote (14416)	4/21/1998 2:03:00 PM
From: mark silvers	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

DLL, With all due respect, I have to disagree. Not yet knowing right from wrong is not the same as sinning. One could look at it from the reverse stanpoint and say that the love that the love a child holds for its parents is a sign of its unity with god. Mark

To: DLL who wrote (14416)	4/21/1998 2:03:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

The New and Living Way: This message was written in response to these words from a person being trained by a Messianic Temple:Yeshua did not proclaim any other/new way of salvation, not Christianity" The foolishness of this statement is immediately apparent to real Christians, but it seems to be held in high esteem by the messianic crowd. Righteousness by faith and not by the works of the law) Gal.3 1.Of foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that you should not obey the truth....2...Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Gal.2 21.I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Rom.10 4.For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. .... 17.So then faith cometh by hearing(believing), and hearing by the word of God. ------------------------------- (In Christ, we are justified by faith without the deeds of the law) Rom. 3 20: Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 21: But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22: Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: ......... 27: Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28: Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. ------------------------- (The righteouness of Abraham was by faith and not by the works of the law) Rom.4 2: For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. 3: For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. 4: Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. 5: But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. 6: Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousnesswithout works, -------- Rom.6 14. For sin shall not have dominion over you; for ye are not under the law, but under Grace. -------- Rom. 8 9.But ye are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

To: DLL who wrote (14416)	4/21/1998 2:24:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Comments on the recent trend to use the word Yeshua rather than the Holy Spirit inspired New Testament name Iesus or Jesus. All Aostloic Christian Jews used the name Iesus (Jesus) in their inspire writings. First of all, the New Testament was written in Greek, and not in Hebrew. The dominant language of Palestine and Egypt was Ptolemaic Greek during the days of Jesus. The Torah and the Tanach were read from the Greek Septuagint in the Synagogues during the days of Jesus. From textual studies of the New Testament, it can be shown that almost every reference to the Old Testament by Jesus was taken from the official Jewish Greek Septuagint. When Jesus lived in Egypt, He spoke Greek. When He lived in Judae and Galilee, He probably spoke both Greek and Aramaic(the Old language of Cyrus the Great and the Jews of Jesus' day.) Jesus also certainly knew Hebrew, but their is no evidence in the New Testament that He was ever called Yeshua. He is always refered to as Iesus in the Holy Spirit inspired New Testament. Every Apostle and disciple who were inspired to write the books of the New Testament called Jesus by the Greek name Iesus. If God and the Holy Spirit had taught it was important to give Jesus the Hebrew name of Yeshua in the New Testament, they would have done so. They didn't! Neither the Hebrew nor the Greek has any spiritual significance but facts are facts. It is inappropriate to try to change His name to the Hebrew Yeshua as if in doing so it gives his name some vodoo or magical language power. Jesus' name has power in any language, if invoked with faith and humility. The only place where it is appropriate to call Jesus Yeshua is where men speak Hebrew as their native language as in Israel. I do not mean to offend but only to correct what is a foolish trend by those who have made and idol out of modern Judaism and the Hebrew language. (note the recent secret codes allegedly found in the Hebrew Scriptures by two antichrist Israelis. There is only one code that can crack the Hebrew Scriptures---faith in Jesus and the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. How could two antichrist Israelis who have a veil of unbelief over their hearts understand anyting about the OT.--codes, smods).