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Biotech / Medical : Ligand (LGND) Breakout! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: bob smith who wrote (19429)	4/22/1998 6:14:00 PM
From: bluejeans	Respond to of 32384

Even if, what you say were true, bottom line is LGND is still "DEAD MONEY" and its trading exactly at when you started this thread some 20000 posts ago. At what price will you sell? Bob 2

To: bob smith who wrote (19429)	4/22/1998 7:25:00 PM
From: Andreas Helke	Respond to of 32384

I think the share prices that were achieved at some particular days are pretty meaningless. Looking at the 200 day average is much more interesting for judging the progress or lack thereof of the Ligand shares. The average went up 60% ( from $8 to $13) in 1996. Since then the average has been remarkably flat and managed to go up just one more dollar. Because the company has made much more progress then the share price we can safely conclude that Ligand shares are a much better bargain now then they were at the end of 1996. The begin of this Breakout thread coincides pretty exactly with the end of the upward movement of the 200 day average. This shows again that it is much easier to predict the past then the future of stock price movements. Andreas

To: bob smith who wrote (19429)	4/22/1998 9:22:00 PM
From: Henry Niman	Respond to of 32384

bob, Not only do people watch trades, but they can also upload a tape. I have highlighted the areas in the tape that bluejeans uploaded to show the swaps as well as the fact that several of the large blocks went off ABOVE the best ask price: 4/22/98 11:00 14 3/4 500 NAS Trade 4/22/98 11:07 Best Bid 14 3/4 4000 NAS 4/22/98 11:07 Best Ask 14 3/4 4000 NAS 14 7/8 1000 NAS up 4/22/98 11:12 14 3/4 200 NAS Trade 4/22/98 11:16 14 3/4 100 NAS Trade 4/22/98 11:21 14 3/4 5000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 11:23 14 3/4 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 11:23 14 3/4 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 11:25 14 7/8 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 11:36 Best Bid 14 3/4 5000 NAS 14 7/8 1000 NAS 4/22/98 11:36 Best Ask 14 3/4 5000 NAS 14 7/8 1000 NAS up 4/22/98 11:41 Best Bid 14 3/4 5000 NAS 14 7/8 1000 NAS 4/22/98 11:41 Best Ask 14 3/4 5000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS up 4/22/98 11:45 14 13/16 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 11:46 14 13/16 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 11:53 14 3/4 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 11:54 14 13/16 300 NAS Trade 4/22/98 11:57 Best Bid 14 3/4 20000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS 4/22/98 11:57 Best Ask 14 3/4 20000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS up 4/22/98 11:57 Best Bid 14 3/4 20000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS 4/22/98 11:57 Best Ask 14 3/4 20000 NAS 14 7/8 1000 NAS up 4/22/98 11:57 Best Bid 14 3/4 5000 NAS 14 7/8 1000 NAS 4/22/98 11:57 Best Ask 14 3/4 5000 NAS 14 7/8 1000 NAS up 4/22/98 11:57 Best Bid 14 3/4 5000 NAS 14 7/8 1000 NAS 4/22/98 11:57 Best Ask 14 3/4 5000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS up 4/22/98 12:02 Best Bid 14 3/4 5000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:02 Best Ask 14 3/4 5000 NAS 14 7/8 1000 NAS up 4/22/98 12:02 Best Bid 14 13/16 1000 NAS 14 7/8 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:02 Best Ask 14 13/16 1000 NAS 14 7/8 1000 NAS up 4/22/98 12:03 Best Bid 14 3/4 5000 NAS 14 7/8 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:03 Best Ask 14 3/4 5000 NAS 14 7/8 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:03 14 13/16 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:03 Best Bid 14 3/4 5000 NAS 14 7/8 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:03 Best Ask 14 3/4 5000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:03 Best Bid 14 3/4 2000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:03 Best Ask 14 3/4 2000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:03 14 3/4 3000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:03 14 3/4 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:03 14 3/4 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:03 Best Bid 14 3/4 1000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:03 Best Ask 14 3/4 1000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:03 14 3/4 2000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:04 14 3/4 2000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:04 14 3/4 3000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:04 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:04 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:04 14 3/4 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:04 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:04 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:08 14 3/4 25000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:08 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:08 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:09 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:09 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 3/4 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:09 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 3/4 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:09 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:09 14 9/16 200 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:09 14 5/8 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:10 14 5/8 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:10 14 5/8 2000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:10 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:10 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 200 NAS down 4/22/98 12:10 14 5/8 800 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:10 14 5/8 800 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:11 14 5/8 4200 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:16 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 200 NAS 4/22/98 12:16 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:17 14 9/16 200 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:17 Best Bid 14 9/16 1300 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:17 Best Ask 14 9/16 1300 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:17 Best Bid 14 9/16 1300 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:17 Best Ask 14 9/16 1300 NAS 14 11/16 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:18 14 9/16 100 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:19 Best Bid 14 9/16 1300 NAS 14 11/16 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:19 Best Ask 14 9/16 1300 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:21 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:21 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:21 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:21 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:22 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:22 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 3/4 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:22 14 9/16 100 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:25 Best Bid 14 5/8 400 NAS 14 3/4 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:25 Best Ask 14 5/8 400 NAS 14 3/4 1000 NAS up 4/22/98 12:30 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 3/4 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:30 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 3/4 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:30 14 5/8 400 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:30 14 5/8 400 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:31 14 3/4 200 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:31 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 3/4 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:31 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:35 14 9/16 600 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:35 14 11/16 5700 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:35 14 9/16 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:36 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 13/16 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:36 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 3/4 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:37 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 3/4 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:37 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:37 14 5/8 100 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:39 14 9/16 200 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:45 14 5/8 400 NAS Irg Trade Cancel 4/22/98 12:45 14 5/8 400 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:45 14 5/8 200 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:46 14 5/8 2000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:47 14 5/8 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:47 14 5/8 300 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:48 14 9/16 2000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:49 14 9/16 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:49 14 9/16 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:51 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:51 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 2000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:51 14 9/16 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:51 14 9/16 2000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:51 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 2000 NAS 4/22/98 12:51 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 12:52 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 1000 NAS 4/22/98 12:52 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 2500 NAS down 4/22/98 12:54 14 9/16 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 12:54 14 9/16 4000 NAS Trade 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NAS 14 5/8 3500 NAS down 4/22/98 13:00 14 9/16 5000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:00 14 9/16 5000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:00 Best Bid 14 1/2 1000 NAS 14 5/8 3500 NAS 4/22/98 13:00 Best Ask 14 1/2 1000 NAS 14 9/16 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 13:01 14 9/16 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:01 14 9/16 4000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:01 14 9/16 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:01 14 9/16 4000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:02 14 5/8 25000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:03 14 1/2 25000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:03 14 9/16 300 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:05 14 9/16 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:09 Best Bid 14 1/2 1000 NAS 14 9/16 1000 NAS 4/22/98 13:09 Best Ask 14 1/2 1000 NAS 14 9/16 100 NAS down 4/22/98 13:09 14 9/16 400 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:09 14 9/16 900 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:11 Best Bid 14 1/2 1000 NAS 14 9/16 100 NAS 4/22/98 13:11 Best Ask 14 1/2 1000 NAS 14 5/8 500 NAS down 4/22/98 13:12 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 500 NAS 4/22/98 13:12 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 500 NAS up 4/22/98 13:13 Best Bid 14 1/2 1000 NAS 14 5/8 500 NAS 4/22/98 13:13 Best Ask 14 1/2 1000 NAS 14 5/8 1500 NAS down 4/22/98 13:13 Best Bid 14 1/2 1000 NAS 14 5/8 1500 NAS 4/22/98 13:13 Best Ask 14 1/2 1000 NAS 14 9/16 1000 NAS down 4/22/98 13:13 14 9/16 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:13 14 9/16 3200 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:13 14 9/16 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:15 14 9/16 100 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:16 14 9/16 500 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:17 Best Bid 14 1/2 1000 NAS 14 9/16 1000 NAS 4/22/98 13:17 Best Ask 14 1/2 1000 NAS 14 5/8 500 NAS down 4/22/98 13:17 14 9/16 1000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:17 14 9/16 5800 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:18 14 9/16 3000 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:18 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 500 NAS 4/22/98 13:18 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 500 NAS up 4/22/98 13:20 14 5/8 200 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:22 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 500 NAS 4/22/98 13:22 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 400 NAS up 4/22/98 13:22 14 5/8 100 NAS Trade 4/22/98 13:26 Best Bid 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 400 NAS 4/22/98 13:26 Best Ask 14 9/16 1000 NAS 14 5/8 1400 NAS up 4/22/98 13:27 14 5/8 200 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To: bob smith who wrote (19429)	4/23/1998 7:55:00 AM
From: tonyt	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32384

Have you ever noticed that no one ever sells LGND, they either buy, or swap it ;-) BTW, Bernie posted to henry a very informative message detailing how NASDAQ works -- too bad he chose to ignore it.

To: bob smith who wrote (19429)	4/24/1998 11:48:00 AM
From: tonyt	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 32384

Anyone watching the activity today? Even our famous yeahsayer is now seeing sells (the 50K block earlier this morning was a sell)

To: bob smith who wrote (19429)	4/28/1998 7:21:00 PM
From: Scott H. Davis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32384

Response to "dead money" reference. This is a common pattern in developmental stage companies. People get ahead of the game when expectations run high, followed by a return to earth, long basing... When the company actually starts to make it, the market is slow to respond. Three other biotechs I own, TRIBY, VICL and ISIP are still way off their Spring 96 highs. The sector as a whole is not dong well. The big question now is will these companies continue to be "dead money", and if not, how far out is that. I think there are a lot of lurkers ready to pull the trigger when the companies get closer to profitibility, and they see a coresponding turn in the trend. I'm betting pretty soon, but then I could be CNS impaired too. IMSCO, Scott