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Pastimes : The Grafted Tree (Gentile's & Jews learn from each other) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (553)	4/23/1998 4:49:00 PM
From: DLL	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 702

Nancy; We all should pray for Emile, and anyone who might be swayed by hatred. I believe in the spirit he is mistaken. Shalom made a very good case (with scripture) for turning away. Until he repents, I will try to obey. In the Love of Yeshua, Shalom to you and yours. DLL

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (553)	4/23/1998 6:00:00 PM
From: Don Pueblo	Respond to of 702

Hello. I hope you are all doing well. A few quick comments if I may. Trying to argue with a madman is a losing proposition. The madman operates on different rules, and your logic is only acceptable if it is complete agreement with the madman's original understanding; otherwise it does not matter what you say or how you say it or whatever support you present for your argument. The madman is interested in one thing only: getting others to agree with his psychosis. In this way, he is less insane; after all, reality could be described as what we all agree on. Some madmen use their psychosis as a weapon, a tool in their attempt to confuse and oppress anyone who does not agree with their psychosis. In this way, all great wars have been instigated. The madman is interested in the differences between two people. The sane man is more interested in their similarities. The madman can use his religion as one of his weapons. Religion is an intensely private matter, and the sane man can easily see that although two people may have differing views on religion, they can in fact coexist and learn from each other for the betterment of both as long as they don't violate their own religious codes. Religious prophets have had a keen understanding of the difference between dogma and faith. I'm not speaking here of absurd cults, I am speaking of actual religious practice. Religion is a popular tool for madmen, because an argument can have its basis on faith rather than empirical evidence. In this wise, a madman can incite others to hate when a logical argument will not make the necessary point. People who study history are also students of language. As a general rule, the proper use of language is an indication of the person's education. Further, the inability to spell correctly or use grammar correctly is an indication that the person writing has a flawed understanding of the language. No amount of justification can conceal the fact that incorrect spelling and grammar is and indication of flawed understanding. A flawed understanding of the language can easily lead to incorrect assumptions and conclusions. The sane man can understand this, but the madman will not. The madman knows he is sane. There is no question of this fact in his mind. He knows he is right. There is no question of this fact in his mind. The sane man understands the truth; he can be wrong and he sometimes acts in an insane manner. The recognition of this truth is what makes the sane man sane, and the madman can never be sane without this recognition. The sane man will see some truth in these words, and use that truth for a good purpose. The madman will rail against whatever he does not agree with and find no truth at all. Trying to argue with a madman is a losing proposition.