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To: DLL who wrote (14546)	4/23/1998 3:13:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Respond to of 39621

"Do you think Paul ceased to be Jewish when he was saved? Do you think he stopped celebrating the Passover?" As a religion, yes he became a Christian! He counted all his past but "dung" for the glory of Christ. He stopped celebrating the shadow and symbol ans started celebrating the reality--the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Christ-- Jesus, the Lamb of God who taketh away the sins of the World. ICor. 5 6: Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? 7: Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: 8: Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth -------------------------------- Why would you deceive us into going back to the beggardly elements of the shadow when we already have the substance. Do you prefer the shadow to the Substance which is Christ?

To: DLL who wrote (14546)	4/23/1998 3:18:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

"A Messianic Jew is able to see the prophetic significance of their culture and continue it in order to bring glory to G-d." Tell us all how a Jew or their "christian" dupes can a Jew continue in the culture of modern Judaism and give glory to God. The culture of modern talmudic Judaism is a culture of 2000 years of rejection and hatred against Jesus Christ and His atoning Blood. It is a culture of 2000 years of rejecting God's salvation in Jesus. It is a culture that has led millions upon millions of Jewish souls into eternal damantion by teaching them reject Jesus. The culture of modern talmudic Judaism for the last 2000 years has been a culture of darkness and death. How do you give glory to God by continuing in and glorifying such a culture? I am really interested in your answer.

To: DLL who wrote (14546)	4/23/1998 6:19:00 PM
From: Chris land	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

DLL, You bring up an interesting point when you ask whether Paul ceased to be Jewish when he was saved. What did the Scribes, Elders, Sadduces, Pharisees, and other doctors of the law think of Paul after he was converted. Did they consider him a Jew after their traditions? Let's both be honest, they had one agenda only, and that was to murder him. They completely disassociated themselves with him. They tried his words and only in the light of their own doctrine could they find grounds of accusation. These were the best minds of Israel, and yet they stood against Paul and his teachings. They proclaimed that they were the true Jews because they held up the law. Now Paul went on to say that a Jew on the outwards doesn't make a person a Jew, but he that is one the inward. Unfortunately they still reject his interpretation over their own. So which one are you asking me to base his Jewishness on, theirs or his? Why do you think that G-d chose such a well schooled Pharisee to take his message to the Gentiles? Certainly not so he or any Jew could brag about it. In fact he himself said he was the chief of sinners. Ask one of those who sat in the Jewish judgement seat if they were a sinner and they would probably have spit in your face for such an insult. "A Messianic Jew is simply a Jew who recognizes his Messiah." As Shalom pointed out, the word Messianic is used as an adjective. I believe the purpose of an adjective is to put more emphasis or weight on a noun. Are you agreeing that putting Messianic before Jew is to emphasize that you differ from the same opinions as Pauls Jewish accusers? If so then your admitting that there are two different type Jews. So again, what am I to base your question on? <<It seems obvious to me that G-d had some important points to make about the Meshiach through Jewish traditions, and that is why he chose the Jews in the first place.>> It is not so obvious to me. It seems to me that men cultivate their own traditions pertaining to the things God has said or done. <<I don't think one can even fully understand the New Testament without the light of the Old. >> I am in full agreement with that statement. -Chris