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To: Mike Farrar who wrote (2006)4/23/1998 5:20:00 PM
From: JeffT  Respond to of 2574
 
Does anyone have a take on what the market watchers think about these earnings? They seem to be in line with consensus earnings estimates. Hopefully we will not take a bath tomorrow in this stock.

Jeff



To: Mike Farrar who wrote (2006)4/23/1998 5:41:00 PM
From: TobaccoMan  Respond to of 2574
 
Jeff- Given the fact that you are short APCC, your post is better understood. Message 4179398
Posting scare messages to threads really has no effect on the stock.

They met estimates and inventories are expected to increase during the first half of the year as the Q3 & 4 are APCC's best Quarters - thus inv. builds Q1/2 and sells Q3/4. Sequential earnings and revs really don't matter anyway. The Street looks at like Quarters.

There might just be a trader sell-off the next few days as the NASDAQ reversed today. But APCC seems to be running a tighter ship and should continue strong throughout the year.
Of course, I will eat my words if we see 27 next week. <g>

Regards, Tman



To: Mike Farrar who wrote (2006)4/23/1998 7:57:00 PM
From: JimieA  Respond to of 2574
 
Also not favorably impressed with APCC's results either. Although earnings were in line with estimates, but some things did not look that good.

Although sequential sales growth not important, since business is cyclical. Asset management was lousy in the 1st quarter. I thought APCC was getting a handle on excess inventory and receivable, but not now.

Sales decreased by $33 million, receivables increased by $19 million. The Days Sales Outstanding (DSO) has gone from 47 days at 12/31/97 to 62 days at 3/31/98.

Inventory also has got out of hand. Increasing $26 million since December. It is a poor excuse that they are buying in the 1st quarter for increased sales in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Someone should get them a book about Just in Time inventory management.

Operating income margin going from 18% in 1997 1st quarter to 16% in 1998 was also not a good sign. Operating income was only up 13%, not the 20-25% goal. What helped this quarter, that APCC conveniently did not mention was exchange rate losses in 1997 vs. gains in 1998.

Although I have no idea how this will effect the stock price, which I own. I also own ANET, and thought that its' quarter was poor, but stock went up.

Good luck



To: Mike Farrar who wrote (2006)4/23/1998 9:53:00 PM
From: Alan Edgett  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 2574
 
FRom a Yahoo board...any thoughts?



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Seasonality in APCC
jocurtis
(39/M/Toledo, OH)
Apr 23 1998
8:10PM EDT

When I first looked at the earnings I must admit I had hoped for better but it almost
always pays to take a deeper look.

In general, I like to see sequential quarter growth in both earnings and sales. I pretty
much do not trust analysts and their estimates. Since APCC did not report sequential
growth, it helps to understand why...

It looks like APCC routinely is seasonly low in their first Q. I am a little puzzled by
this since in a network installation business I am associated with, we use exclusively
APC and purchase it any time of the year. I don't really sense a seasonal factor other
than when warm weather hits everyone seems to want to talk about new projects
with me. Anyway, here are the numbers..

From Dec 96 to Mar 97 sales declined from 210 to 172, 18%

From Dec 96 to Mar 97 EPS declined from 0.32 to 0.22, 31%

Now we have:

From Dec 97 to Mar 98 sales declined from 252 to 219, 13%

From Dec 97 to Mar 98 EPS declined from 0.39 to 0.28, 28%

So this documents the seasonality. A lower March report is to be expected. But the
year-to-year comparisons look great across the board.

On a seasonly adjusted basis the numbers look good to me since the seasonal decline
was not as great as it was last year indicating stronger underlying growth. But I have
no idea if the market will think so. The market may have been hoping for more and
APCC is just as vulnerable to a general sell-off as any other company. If the market
views the numbers as I do, the stock should go up. But the market doesn't always see
things the way I do. <g>

Can anyone shed more light on why APCC's first Q is seasonly low?

Jeff