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To: jjs_ynot who wrote (41151)4/24/1998 9:19:00 AM
From: ViperChick Secret Agent 006.9  Respond to of 58727
 
dwight
here is more info on trin
To: +robert b furman (17167 )
From: +Jurgen
Friday, Apr 24 1998 8:31AM ET
Reply # of 17180

Hi Bob, here's a short explanation of TRIN and VIX

Taken from Stocks & Commodities, V. 9:7 (293-297): SIDEBAR: THE ARMS
INDEX
--------------------------------
The Arms index, also known as TRIN or Trader's Index, was developed by Richard
Arms in 1967 to indicate when abnormally high volume is accompanying either
advancing or declining stocks. The index is based on the assumption that volume tends
to swing in the direction of market sentiment. If we are in a bullish atmosphere, volume
will tend to be proportionately higher in the stocks that are going up. If the bears are in
control, the volume will tend to be proportionately heavier in those stocks that are
declining.
The formula is a ratio of two ratios:

Advances
--------
Declines
---------------------- = Arms Index
Advancing Volume
----------------
Declining Volume

A reading of 1.00 would be a standoff, anything under 1.00 indicates that the up stocks
were getting more than their share of the volume and anything over 1.0 indicates that the
down stocks were getting more than their share of the volume. But the direction and
speed of the changing index values is more important than the absolute value of the
index. If the index quickly moves toward higher numbers, regardless of its current
reading, it is warning of an impending downward move in the market, and a rapid move
in the Arms Index to lower numbers is often a warning of a market rise.
The Arms Index was developed for intraday timing but later became popular as a
longer-term tool for forecasting market moves.-Editor

Taken from Stocks & Commodities, V. 12:5 (198-199): The Volatility Index by David
C. Stendahl
--------------------------------
David Stendahl explains the volatility index (VIX), which measures volatility based on
the implied values of eight Standard & Poor's 100 (OEX) options from which the
weighted volatility index is derived when combined.
The volatility index (VIX) is a measurement of the market's volatility. It specifically
measures volatility based on the implied values of eight Standard & Poor's 100 (OEX)
options that when combined calculate the weighted volatility index. The Chicago Board
of Options Exchange (CBOE) has been using this index for five years and has only
recently made it publicly available.
THE BASICS
In its basic form, the VIX can help to determine if OEX options are undervalued or
overvalued. Nothing frustrates an option trader more than accurately predicting the
market's direction, only to lose money buying an overvalued option. Even if the market
moves in the trader's direction, he can still lose money if the option was overvalued
when purchased. The premium of the option declines in value simply due to supply and
demand factors. Unfortunately, many option traders spend more time analyzing the
market's direction than they do pricing the specific option. Time constraints and a lack
of computer power make it virtually impossible for the independent trader to price an
option accurately.
The VIX overcomes those drawbacks by allowing traders access to a real-time
assessment of the market's volatility. Any broker with access to a quote machine can
bring up a current valuation of the index. To make money in the options market, traders
must be aware that volatility direction is just as important as price direction. Simply, if
traders ignore the market's volatility, they are dramatically stacking the odds against
themselves.
INTERPRETATION
I use daily data for the volatility index from data vendor Dial Data. I then plot 20-day
Bollinger bands around the data to help quantify the level of the market's volatility.
Bollinger bands are simply two standard deviations using a lookback period of 20 days,
plotted above and below the 20-day moving average. This is not a foolproof valuation
method, but it does offer traders a method by which to measure the market's volatility
on a real-time basis.

When used with Bollinger bands, the VIX is easy to understand and gauge. The VIX
moves between the upper and lower bands, stopping periodically at the 20-day moving
average for support or resistance. When the index is near the upper band, option prices
are considered to be overvalued. This should be considered a selling opportunity.
However, when the index is near the lower band, options are considered to be
undervalued or at least fairly priced...



To: jjs_ynot who wrote (41151)4/24/1998 2:13:00 PM
From: Patrick Slevin  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 58727
 
Without getting too nitty gritty yet,

You need High/Low and close.

High and Low to get the RANGE, and Close to get a point for the formula on the stop.

I'm a bit distracted as of right now. The weekend would be better to discuss it for me. Can we get into it at that point?