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To: Paul Engel who wrote (5770)4/24/1998 9:25:00 PM
From: Adrian Wu  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 6843
 
Re: <New AMD chip to wait for fast bus >

The beauty about the AMD K6-3D is, unlike the PII-350 and 400, it is not clock-multiplier locked. That means you can insert it in an ordinary socket 7 board, use 66x4 or 66x4.5,(or even 66x5) and get up to the stated clock speed. When the super-7 boards become available in volume (and an MVP3 board has already been available in Hong Kong for over a month on retail shelves), users can simply upgrade their motherboard ($100) and get a 15% boost in performance. They don't even need to change their DRAM since the MVP3 can use a 66MHz memory bus while accessing the L2 cache at 100MHz. Since most MVP3 board will have either 512 or 1024 kB of PBSRAM, the speed of the memory is not as crucial to performance. As for Intel, their PII350 and 400 are locked at 3.5x and 4x, which means you cannot run these chips at their stated clock frequency with a 66mHz bus. That means a lot of expense upgrading the motherboard (>$165) and DIMMS (PC100 DIMMS cost 2x as much). On the other hand, the 66MHz processors can be easily overclocked with a 100MHz board, which would persuade users to run a PII-266 at 350MHz (easily). Isn't this decision dumb or what!

Adrian



To: Paul Engel who wrote (5770)4/25/1998 1:41:00 AM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6843
 
Paul -

<Chip Set vendors haven't quite got acceptable 100 MHz chip sets.>

You're kidding!

<the 100-MHz capability will come out at that time because the related chips that work with the processor aren't ready.>

No! I don't believe it

<The Aladdin 5 chipset from Acer Laboratories, which will house the 100-MHz bus, is still not complete >

Say what!!

<Motherboards using the 100-MHz chipset from Via Technologies will be available, but the chipset needs "another turn of silicon" before it will be commercially viable>

This can't be true!!!

<As a result, the delay places a question mark on AMD's ability to gain in the marketplace.>

Now I've heard everything!!!

EP



To: Paul Engel who wrote (5770)4/25/1998 7:39:00 AM
From: Joey Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6843
 
Paul, re:As a result, the delay places a question mark on AMD's ability to gain in the
marketplace. In one sign that the release may be muted, Compaq, one of AMD's largest
customers, is not expected to release systems next month for the chip.

so much for AMD returning to profitability in Q3...K6-3D was their
only chance of getting some sort of price parity with Intel chips...
Now, it just looks like more of the same: 25%+ discounted chips running at speeds at least 2 grades below Intel's fastest chips,
and more .25m related expenses for Q2, Q3. But, in the words of Jerry "we're back" Sanders, wait until Q4!

joey