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Biotech / Medical : Zonagen (zona) - good buy? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Hank who wrote (3584)	4/25/1998 1:18:00 AM
From: Michael Bidder	Respond to of 7041

I think Zona is a RAGEING FRAUD. But damn what a bucking horse it can be. Hard to make a huge return without a huge risk. Opinheimer's buy recomendation is as sleazy as it gets. Shame on you all. -Michael

To: Hank who wrote (3584)	4/25/1998 9:38:00 AM
From: Dauntless	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7041

Hank, sorry, it's no match Because we're playing different games. Bill is only capable of dispensing bile. His arguments are based completely on the by now widely recognized false reports issued by his god - Asensio. He has NEVER offered a single response to any of the facts I or others have offered - he ignores & repeats Manny's mantra. And it's not just here, on the Y2K thread an obviously knowledgeable poster wrote a polite, thoughtful message citing 4 or 5 examples of upcoming problems & asking Bill to explain why they would not cause havoc. Bill just totally ignored every one, never posted a response - just kept repeating his self delusional BS. It's a matter of advertising impact - if he enters into a conventional debate, where he must respond to questions about his arguments, he'll be crushed - so he doesn't let it happen. He ignores it, and increases the frequency of his misleading posts, always putting a derogatory comment in the first line for maximum visual impact - even for a browser of the thread. Some might call him clever - some actually admire Bill Clinton, who uses similar tactics. Neither one will be admired for long. <<<I respect both his opinion and ability to enrage.>>> I deal with facts & track record. As far as Zonagen is concerned, I don't see that he rates very high on either scale. He predicted the stock price would fall, but had advance knowledge (wonder how) of Manny's reports and the lawsuits, so I'm not impressed. He predicted loud & clear that the stock would NEVER get back above 20 - what a genius. As far as respecting someone for their "ability to enrage", without trying to sound like Mother Superior, I'm disappointed in you.

To: Hank who wrote (3584)	4/25/1998 10:03:00 AM
From: Dauntless	Respond to of 7041

Thread - especially ProZapper JLcfa, a poster on the Yahoo thread, made me aware of a fact regarding all these announcements of class action lawsuits. Two firms have repeated their announcements 5 and 6 times: Stull, Stull & Brody - 3/27, 4/3, 4/10, 4/18, 4/24 Millberg, Weiss..... - 3/19, 4/3, 4/10, 4/17, 4/21, 4/24 5 or 6 announcements, spaced over a month, looking for a plaintiff - sounds more like a fishing trip or a PR campaign (IMO) than a professional legal action!!

To: Hank who wrote (3584)	4/25/1998 8:32:00 PM
From: Linda Kaplan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7041

It's no match. Mr. "Go Play With Yourself" Dauntless posts rumor as fact and runs around digging up dirt rather than responding to reasoned discussion. I don't find anything of any use in what he posts. The untruths in his posts just don't stop, along with the pretenses. There's nothing of value in his posts. When I tune into anything under his name I'm amazed. Did he just say he'd stopped talking to Wexler and that he'd just asked Wexler a question, also? How can you waste your time letting him pontificate such nonsense? Bill Wexler posted several factual summaries here that have been buried in the verbiage. Linda