To: HeyRainier who wrote (794 ) 4/26/1998 1:13:00 PM From: Robert Graham Respond to of 1720
Very interesting indeed equating the availability of credit to what we have been seeing in the inflating financial markets. Also I agree that if the Fed were to provide for a stable market, the stock market would continue its course. Look at how there have been earnings and revenue reductions on many of the S&P 500 companies which takes an overvalued market and sets the reference for value even lower making this market more overvalued than it was before. What did the market do? It continued up. I guess the thinking here is that as long as the economy is doing well, there must be companies out there making good money. However, I see the public returning to the techs that was the very visible group that have been reporting slower growth. I think the public is really being driven by future profit expectations of the stock market kind, and the "rational" is added to this after the fact on how this somehow correlates to corporate profits. They supply themselves with the excuse to do what is familiar to them: ride those same tech stocks up for another profit. So P/Es and PEGs will continue to move up. Leave it to human nature to do the familiar, even when the situation has changed and the familiar may not work anymore. As long as the economy is "stable" and "in control" with continued prospects "sometime in the future" is the only rational needed for today's investor, which is much more tenuously connected to corporate profits. As I stated before, the liquidity from fund money is not helping the publics perception of the market. I think this bull market is also indicative of how financially better the individual is who is playing the market. The average person has a job and is likely making more money. Many are using their discretionary income, which may actually be from credit, to take trips with their family and do other things that families do during economically positive times. Looking all around they can see the benefits of economic prosperity, some benefitting more than others. The job market is in some areas like the computer field is even having trouble finding qualified applicants. So I think this generates a "warm, fuzzy" feeling that translates into the thinking that their personal situation will continue and can even get better in the future and as one result they move money into the stock market for that "killing" that they now do not see as being a risk anymore. After all, that neighbor a couple doors down the street must be doing very well with his business since he just purchased a new BMW. I can be just as well off too by playing the stock market. "The money is there and waiting for me!" is what they tell themselves, which has replace "where is the money?". When we continue to have prosperity like this with none of the natural brakes in place of more expensive money through higher interest rates even with talk in the past of interest rates going down, or of higher priced goods through inflation even with talk of the possibility of disinflation, and the symbol of economic prosperity which is the stock market continuing to go up in what has become a "predictable", where are any signs that this situtation can change for the worse and even become financially "uncomfortable" or even "painful"? So I thing the recipie is there for a "blow off" type of top. Just give the public a chance and they will not disappoint. The sentiment behind a "greed" driven market can quickly swing to "fear". As I think was mentioned before on this thread, the funds on the average over time are keeping a historically low cash position to maximize their benefits from this bull market. This more illiquid position for the funds can aggrevate any downturn in the market when the public in their fear cause a run of redemptions on mutual funds. I think we do have interesting times ahead for us, and definitely a more volitile market. The possibility of a significant market downturn will begin when market liquidity dries up. But a new injection of funds on a massive scale from Social Security money may continue this bull market into the future. It would be just like the government to facilitate people's money being placed into the market at its top. Just some thoughts. Bob Graham