To: Brian Malloy who wrote (1476 ) 4/26/1998 6:39:00 PM From: men mailman Respond to of 6439
Barrons very bullish Interview with Morgan Stanley analyst <<Q: You're identified with investing in tobacco stocks, with good reason. What's happening there? A: Let's recapitulate where we are. You had the really nice, $368 billion deal that all the attorneys general signed off on. Trouble is, you then had the health community and the anti-tobacco community saying, "We can't let the tobacco industry off this easily." That was quite amazing to hear, because $368 billion is a lot of money. Then you had the evolution into a much bigger deal, say $500-$600 billion with less immunity. And basically, the McCain bill came out and the industry was completely unable to accept it. I applaud that. I don't think it's a viable deal. The industry is at the table to get a rational environment for their business. They would like immunity from lawsuits. They've won. They've never paid out a dime. So what are we left with if this historic opportunity falls through? We're back at square one. The companies will fight you. You will raise excise taxes and sue them in courts. Now, tobacco is a great example of a group where fear gets very high from time to time. I did significantly downsize the group about a year ago. For the first time in a couple of years none of them were in my top 10, because optimism about the global settlement was too extreme, and you started having downward revisions. The industry hasn't repurchased stock for a year. So the cash is still on the balance sheet, and that's a negative to EPS. Q: It's needed for a settlement. A: Not only that, but they're in negotiations with the government, and want to sit on their hands. Q: What do you think of the tobacco stocks now? A: I've started to put my toe back in the water. They are very compelling here. I'm buying Philip Morris, Loews and RJR, in that order. I don't yet have a full position. But there's a win-win scenario that should evolve, even if settlement talks broke down. Clearly, there's a decent chance Clinton will hold a summit of the two parties. It has to be a deal that shareholders can accept, because the tobacco companies won't do it if it isn't. The government gets a lot of money. The industry gets a rational environment. On the other hand, if they can't get it together in Washington, which is totally believable, the stocks will surge. In the history of tobacco stocks, you see huge trades based on fear and greed. The only time these stocks deserved to go down was Marlboro Friday, when they said, "Hey, we have to cut prices, because the low-price brands are cutting into our profit." But this isn't anything like that. If the deal falls through, estimates will rise because people will take the $368 billion out of their numbers. Philip Morris will start buying their stock aggressively, which is very accretive to earnings. Personally, I'd rather see the deal fall through. But I'm getting much more comfortable that the downward revisions have ended and that things are actually pretty darn good at Philip Morris.