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To: O'Hara who wrote (14687)	4/27/1998 10:15:00 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Hello Shalom, Yes CGB is the self-appointed crusader for the "dark side". <gg> The word and the truth cannot phase her as she is set on a seemingly unalterable course to self destruction. And she says come join the fun. No thanks! Have a good evening, Bob

To: O'Hara who wrote (14687)	4/27/1998 10:25:00 PM
From: O'Hara	Respond to of 39621

><>..Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD?..OR...><> Ps 24:1-10 1 The earth is the LORD's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. 2 For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods. 3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place? 4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. 5 He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation. 6 This is the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah. 7 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. 8 Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle. 9 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. 10 Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.

To: O'Hara who wrote (14687)	4/27/1998 10:27:00 PM
From: O'Hara	Respond to of 39621

><>...Blessed is the man that...><> Ps 1:1-6 1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. 4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. 6 For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

To: O'Hara who wrote (14687)	4/27/1998 10:30:00 PM
From: O'Hara	Respond to of 39621

><>...The fool hath said in his heart...><> Ps 14:1-7 1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. 2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. 3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one. 4 Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD. 5 There were they in great fear: for God is in the generation of the righteous. 6 Ye have shamed the counsel of the poor, because the LORD is his refuge. 7 Oh that the salvation of Israel were come out of Zion! when the LORD bringeth back the captivity of his people, Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad.

To: O'Hara who wrote (14687)	4/28/1998 12:48:00 AM
From: Grainne	Respond to of 39621

Shalom, I think perhaps you need to read some history to see what happened during the Inquisition, and during World War II as well. Certainly not all Christians acted badly, and many have done good works throughout history. But Christianity has also caused some problems, and perhaps if we could understand how these happened, similar things would not have to happen again. Maybe you could also study the mainstream Christian churches which have accepted homosexuals into their congregations, and often into their ministries. Some of the things you say are simply factually untrue. I can see I have got you upset, because you are throwing Bible verses at me, but that is not my intent. If you are secure within your beliefs that is good, and you should not feel threatened. I would not want to be at the feet of Jesus, and I think from what I have read of him that he would consider that unnecessarily subservient behavior. But I bet we could have fun talking and laughing and hugging each other!!!

To: O'Hara who wrote (14687)	4/28/1998 1:33:00 AM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Sorry, Shalom, I wanted to add this url to my last post to you, but I needed to spend some time with my child before she went to bed. Anyway, here is a discussion of official church policy on homosexuals in some of the mainstream Christian churches. The url is a little dated, and more Christian churches are now ministering to homosexuals, and considering ordaining homosexual clergy. This is a social trend in America that will almost certainly continue to progress over time, as more is understood about the genetic nature of homosexuality, and as more Christians open their hearts to their homosexual brethren and realize they are just people, no one to be afraid of. I was really surprised to see that the Evangelical Lutherans are one of the more socially tolerant churches!! I guess that is why Dwight suggested I spend some time there, or whatever he said about it. cs.cmu.edu