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To: Tim J. Flick who wrote (15678)4/29/1998 5:31:00 PM
From: John Mansfield  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 31646
 
Re: Keane
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Keane is maintaining the support and enhancement of PSE&G's 150 mainframe and client/server business
applications, including systems that support customer information, finance, and human resources for PSE&G, one of
the 10 largest combined electric and gas providers in the U.S. Keane is applying its Application Management
Methodology, which incorporates performance metrics, project management disciplines, continuous improvement
activities, and tight management controls, to the project. These processes conform to SEI's Level 3 key process
areas and are being applied to all the client projects.
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Embedded systems are not mentioned in this press release. In the last CC TAVA management mentioned how Keane / TAVA cooperation works: Keane has a program office in place at a customer's site; then for embedded y2k this program office is used. Embedded expertise is offered not by Keans; I presume often by TAVA.
Embedded systems is simply not part of core business of Keane; this explains this business model.

Regards,

John



To: Tim J. Flick who wrote (15678)4/29/1998 5:41:00 PM
From: Jack Zahran  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 31646
 
Keane is doing Business Process Re-engineering work on the IT side, not the embedded systems side. Though, you would think this would give them the ability to influence the Embedded Systems provider or even be the lead contractor, sourcing to someone like TAVA if not TAVA themselves.

Actually on its own merits, not having done DD on Keane, I would say that this is a very lucrative market for Keane. I do some BPR work in Manhatten and Long Island and it is a very profitable business.

As far as TAVA goes, if Keane is being responsible toward the client, they would make sure a company like TAVA is brought in to assess the embedded systems end. They really do not compete, just compliment and complete Keane's offering .

Regards,
Jack Z.



To: Tim J. Flick who wrote (15678)4/29/1998 11:07:00 PM
From: Kathy Riley  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 31646
 
"Keane is maintaining the support and enhancement of PSE&G's 150 mainframe and client/server
business applications, including systems that support customer information, finance, and human
resources for PSE&G, one of the 10 largest combined electric and gas providers in the U.S. Keane
is applying its Application Management Methodology, which incorporates performance metrics,
project management disciplines, continuous improvement activities, and tight management controls,
to the project. These processes conform to SEI's Level 3 key process areas and are being applied
to all the client projects."
__________________________________________________________________
Tim, Keane is not a embedded systems expert, they are dealing with
the companies business applications, as per this paragraph taken
from the Keane press release. Their background is IT.

Kathy



To: Tim J. Flick who wrote (15678)4/30/1998 9:10:00 AM
From: Steve Sanchez  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 31646
 
mr. flick asks opinion on:

biz.yahoo.com

mr. mansfield says Keane was mentioned in Conference Call.
here is that mention:

TAVA's CEO John Jenkins:

... On the alliance side, with IT service providers, we are active with, I think, six or seven at this time in some form of either joint engagements, subcontract arrangement, or joint-proposal activity. Actually, I'm leaving this morning to go down to Dallas to support a presentation by TAVA personnel at the Keane Y2K practitioners' conference. And certainly we are looking to use that as a major leverage event to work more closely with that organization in their Y2K practice.

also says:

...
Let me try to tackle the Keane and the AON thing and then let Kevin address GM. Keane, as with other IT-service companies, I think, the model there, Jeff, is more the path of they're already engaged with manufacturing or process clients doing Y2K work in the business system level. The client wakes up and says, Hey, we've got problems in the process control layer.

You guys already have a program management office in here. You're already helping us. Can you solve this problem?

Keane says, No, we don't have the kind of staff that knows PLCs from PCs. Let's go get a partner. The partner would be us.
That's more the model rather than using Keane people to do the work.

They're different kinds of software engineering, if you will, not to say that there isn't some cross over, and that's a possibility, but the model is really more of an account-exposure leverage. The advantage for someone like Keane then is that they are taking care- they're offering a full-enterprise Y2K solution to the client, which is of value to the client, especially if they know and like their program offices there for the business system.

Jeff Whitehorn: Does that mean though if Keane says-and I thank you for clearing that point up-does that mean though- does Keane then say to you, This is really a house account. This part of the deal is $5 million. We'll give you 80 percent and we take 20 because it's a house account.

John Jenkins: Well, you know, obviously there's going to be some commercial piece in there for Keane in- you know, to respond to their, you know, the value that they add whether it's simply the introduction. So far, we've done this in a couple of cases, and frankly, the commercial arrangements have been quite satisfactory.

steve