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Can OnSale Scale the Heights? Everybody's hyping "scalability" at H&Q's tech-stock conference. But online auctioneer OnSale Inc. may have the real thing. By Jon D. Markman
Early in this century, pioneering radio companies invested over decades to create the world's first mass-communications medium. Now, pioneering Internet companies are trying to build a new mass medium in just a couple of years, which means they need more money, faster.
Enter the investment-conference circuit, where these companies' executives are spending a lot of time these days flogging their vision and wares as they try to persuade professional fund managers to pour more money into their stocks, driving up the prices. It's like a second job for them. They depend on lifting their share price so they can use stock as a currency for acquisitions, as a salary-substitute to retain veteran employees, as a lure to snag top recruits and as a way to keep score. They also need to lift the market value of their companies to appear more stable to big banks -- and thus obtain cheaper credit.
Investor columnist Jim Jubak and I caught up with the virtually nonstop investment road show in San Francisco this week, at the 26th annual tech-stock conference sponsored by brokerage Hambrecht & Quist. We sat in on a couple of dozen presentations and talked with a few dozen pros. I'll empty my notebook today and Friday, and Jim will chip in with more in his regular Friday and Tuesday columns.
Let's Get Big -- On the Cheap At the start of any presentation, you could bet a week's pay that the speaker at some point would utter the week's single most popular buzzword: Scalable.
It's no longer important just to grow a great brand on the Internet. Companies are also scrambling to create a business model that will allow them to grow really big, really quickly, and at the lowest cost. Scalability is all about determining the largest market for your products and then ramping up to feed that market as fast as possible without adding costly equipment or personnel -- a neat trick. Details
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OnSale has no meaningful competition, very few employees and appears able to scale up in size primarily through the purchase of equipment rather than the hiring of people. One company stood out when gauged on this metric: OnSale Inc. (ONSL). The online auction-sales company may well face the biggest market on the Web, yet it has no meaningful competition, very few employees and appears able to scale up in size to meet future demand primarily through the purchase of equipment rather than the hiring of people.
In a measure of the leverage it gets from its lean 145-person workforce, OnSale gets the highest amount of revenue per employee of any player in the space -- $806,000 each. That's approached among other high-tech firms only by Dell Computer (DELL) at $770,000 per employee and Microsoft (MSFT) at $615,000.
In contrast, in the past 12 months, Amazon.com (AMZN) took in gross revenues of $216,000 for each of its 1,000 employees and Yahoo! (YHOO) had revenues of $176,000 from each of its 500 employees. (These employee figures are current through the most recent reporting period; Investor's data is gathered annually.)
Yet by at least one measure, OnSale is also one of the few values in the Internet investment space, trading for 4.1 times sales. Contrast that with AOL at 7.7 times sales; Amazon at 11 times sales or Yahoo! at an astonishing 72 times sales. (See Jim Jubak's column Friday for another take on valuing Internet stocks.)
Chief executive Jerry Kaplan told investors on Monday that his firm is "bringing the bargains of Costco to the entertainment of QVC." I don't get too entertained by QVC on television, but I do find OnSale addictive both as a user and as an investor.
Here's the big idea: Computer and consumer-electronics companies always end their selling seasons overstocked with millions of dollars worth of perfectly good but unsold inventory. And electronics retailers always end up their seasons with millions of dollars worth of returned products that are also perfectly good but cannot be sold as new. In the old days, this type of merchandise was dumped at surplus auctions, swap meets and discount-store bargain sales, or ground up and loaded into landfills.
OnSale's founders hit on the idea in 1995 of buying up vast quantities of all that stuff on the cheap, marking it up a little bit, and auctioning it off to the public via the Web. They started with computers, then moved on to consumer electronics and sports equipment. Next they're targeting travel packages, frozen steaks, power tools, big computer systems, low-end real estate, industrial commodities -- you name it.
What grabs your attention are the prices for brand-name, new or refurbished merchandise: They'll start the bidding for six $3,500 Dell notebook computers at $199 each; you can buy one or all. The price might eventually ramp to $1,500 or more apiece -- but it's rare that you don't see real bargains. Customers get factory warranties. And the bidding, which generally lasts 24 hours, is fun once you get the hang of it. It's also "sticky" -- one of those great new Web business words -- as users return to the site again and again to check on their bids.
VIDEO OnSale CEO Jerry Kaplan says his company was profitable for 5 quarters before going public, and after a period of variable investment, should once again be profitable in Q2 of '99. Get Tools
OnSale was profitable before it went public, but has since gone into the red to invest in its marketing and infrastructure. Its business is not easily replicated because it runs on very cool, very fast proprietary software. And its repeat business -- 74% of first-timers buy again -- seems to show that the model works. "Our customers are omnivores, they'll buy anything," Kaplan said. "It's like Costco, where you go in for a bag of carrots and come out with prescription drugs, a TV and a barbecue."
The firm's scalability stems partly from the fact that the sharp rise of new high-tech merchandise for sale at retail is creating ever more quantities of overstock for OnSale to buy cheap. The firm turns around and sells this merchandise at predictable (if rather tiny) margins without the intervention of human order-takers. Inventory is low and turnover is high, because almost every item is sold at some price that's profitable to OnSale. And while shoppers might buy one or two items at a time from Web retailers like Amazon.com (AMZN) or CDNow (CDNW), Kaplan said that in the last quarter, 3,700 of his customers spent more than $5,000, 45 spent more than $50,000 and one customer spent over $1 million. "No one buys $1 million in books online," he cracked. While most Web content companies are relying on advertising for revenues, in other words, OnSale is actually selling stuff; it's estimated it will gross $223 million in fiscal 1998. Ads, as they grow, will be gravy.
How big is the market? Kaplan lamented that there were few reliable statistics, but he figures there's at least $11 billion worth of overstocked/refurbished PCs to sell per year, and more than $30 billion in consumer electronics. Add travel, real estate, leftover industrial pipe and last week's frozen Omaha steaks to the mix, then take the concept to Europe and Asia -- and you get the picture.
Barry Sosnick, an analyst at Genesis Merchant Group Securities, has concluded that OnSale's business model has "greater profitability potential" than any other online retailer, and will be considered "the star" of the industry once its business model is better understood by the Street. He is forecasting 16 cents a share in profits in 1999 and 51 cents in 2000.
How big is OnSale's potential market? Kaplan figures there's at least $11 billion worth of overstocked and refurbished PCs to sell per year, and more than $30 billion in consumer electronics. "Our customers don't just buy goods, they win them -- there's a high emotional impact in the thrill of the hunt," Kaplan said. Considering that the price of this stock is actually kind of reasonable at $22 to $25 -- and is being held back now due to unsubstantiated rumors of accounting and inventory problems that Sosnick discounts -- the same might well be said for value-seeking Web investors.
It's the Infrastructure, Stupid Kevin Landis, co-manager of the red-hot Technology Value Fund, has a different take on the auction-sales company. "OnSale is a good reason to buy PMC-Sierra (PMCS)," he said.
Landis can't repress a smirk when talking about Web content companies. Visiting the conference to catch up on his holdings and learn about new companies, he said he much prefers the firms that make the hardware that make the Web work. The reason: "They have similar upside but they are much less experimental -- and that makes them less risky," he said. "Some of the content guys can succeed wildly and others fail, but it doesn't matter to the guys who push the bits around."
Landis' favorite bit-pushers are semiconductor manufacturers whose products -- sold in huge quantities and reordered constantly "like razor blades" -- give smarts to the routers and switches of corporate and public networks. Top choices include PMC-Sierra, which powers wide-area network equipment sold by companies like Ascend (ASND) and Nortel (NT); Level One Communications (LEVL), which powers local-area networks; and Vitesse (VTSS), which powers the Internet "backbone." Other favorites are TranSwitch (TXCC) and Applied Microcircuits (AMCC). H&Q Internet Stocks
Check to see which Internet stocks get a bounce in price from their H&Q presentations. Landis' advice to investors seeking to make their way in the new world of high-tech investing: "Identify the biggest waves, then identify the strongest swimmers -- and ignore everything else."
More from H&Q on Friday: New-age ways to make losses look pretty . . . brand-new buzzwords . . . a short chat with venture capitalist Roger MacNamee . . . the one truly ubiquitous piece of software . . . the unveiling of my 10-stock portfolio of top Internet plays for the rest of 1998 . . . and the sobering perspective of a Milwaukee money manager who figures he won't buy his first Internet stock until sometime after 2000.
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