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Strategies & Market Trends : Roger's 1998 Short Picks -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Roger A. Babb who wrote (8099)5/2/1998 1:33:00 AM
From: Shoe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18691
 
**OFF-TOPIC** Roger, I had the opposite occur with another broker, and would like your opinion. I had a limit buy order (by phone) on a NASDAQ stock in from well before the open, at the price where it happened to open, but 10-12 min. into the session the order showed on my screen as still open, with a limit price of zero -- looked like a mistake. In the meantime the stock fell like a rock and I entered a new order at market -- they both came back right away as filled at the same price, nearly 10% below my ill-considered limit. But later in the day the broker "corrected" the report to show that I had been filled on the first order at my limit price, and when queried claimed the MM had filled me at the open, but had sent a late report with a wrong price, which just happened to be the same as the market price at the time of the report. Needless to say, this seemed quite suspicious to me (the "erroneous" report could not have been a typo, none of the digits or fractions in the stock price were the same!). It did occur to me that if I were not at risk that an order would be filled late at an increased price (as evidently happened to you at Datek), I would feel marginally better about not knowing whether my order really had been filled before the price fell, but that if I would have had no recourse if the broker had reported a delayed fill at a 10% higher price, then the game would be rigged against me. When I asked the broker in writing what it would do in a situation like yours, the response I received was:
"Your question regarding orders submitted before the open and reported for 10 - 12 minutes after the open - all market orders received prior to the opening are executed at that opening price."
Does the explanation I was given about the late report and correction seem plausible to you, and how would you check it? Is it kosher for a MM to submit a late report followed by a "correction" of this type, and for my broker to accept it? Good luck with Datek. Thanks. -- Shoe



To: Roger A. Babb who wrote (8099)5/2/1998 1:51:00 PM
From: White Shoes  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18691
 
Roger: re Datek, that is totally ridiculous. Your order should have gone through right at the open. PERIOD.