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To: John Mansfield who wrote (341)5/1/1998 5:52:00 PM
From: John Mansfield  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 618
 
[SHIPPING] 'Ship systems failures & Y2K'

asked in the TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) Q&A Forum

I've checked out the FAQ's, the Transport section of this Forum and I've
also checked a few other Web Sites. So far I have not found any really
useful info on the question of potential failure of ship's systems due to
Y2K. Personally I would expect any such failures to be confined to
either on board systems such as cargo refrigeration euipment, air
conditioning and the like or more significantly to radio, radar and
navigational equipment. I would hope that modern seafarer's retain at
least some of the skills enjoyed by their ancestors and that they could still
navigate by the stars if necessary or failing that they could look out the
window. My question is does anyone know where I can find more
specific info concerning ships and Y2K?

Asked by Jason Copland (copland@colognere.com) on April 27, 1998.

Answers

As an intro, here are my credentials. I went to sea for 16 years, some in
the US Navy and 10 in the Merchant Marine. I sailed Naval ships,
foreign-flag, union, non-union, military, tanker, passenger, tugs,
surveillance, etc. I hold an unlimited "Master's" license (Captain). I'm a
Commander in the Naval Reserve. I also have a Master's degree in
Computer Science and have been working in the computer industry for
almost 10 years, most recently in the Software Productivity and Software
Process Improvement areas.

During Operation Desert Storm, the maritime unions and Military Sealift
Command had to call up retirees in their 70's because these were the
only men who knew how to operate the old steam ships being brought out
of mothballs. All the young guys were diesel engineers. I learned celestial
navigation at the US Naval Academy and used it extensively until 1983.
However, I don't think celestial nav is taught anymore except as a
curiosity. "How in the world did they DO THAT?!" The computer
industry is faced with a similar problem: few programmers know any
details about the older programs. And if you have a ship whose
navigation and other control systems are dependent upon electronics and
your crew members don't have fallback knowledge or capabilities, there
will be a problem.

I foresee problems for the shipping industry in these areas and will touch
on them in greater detail: * Navigation and communication systems *
Engineroom controls * Cargo handling controls * Cargo handling controls
at the shipping terminal

-- Nav & Comm systems: These are things like the satellite
communications, satellite navigation (GPS = Global Positioning System),
Loran, Radar, even the gyroscope. Both here and in the engineroom,
much of the problem will be in the embedded clock chips which control
things. GPS has its own problems: it will reset to zero on 22 August 1999,
and the Navy has said it's the (receiver) manufacturer's responsibility to
compensate for that rollback. Did they do it? We'll find out. What about
the clock chips which were placed on the satellites themselves? Who will
ascend to an altitude of 22000 miles to replace them? By the way,
accurate celestial navigation is almost entirely dependent upon an
accurate clock -- that's why mariners value their chronometers and make
a ritual of their winding and record their error every day. I don't know if
the gyro has a clock in it; it wouldn't surprise me. Radars are used for
inshore navigation, and use timing for their pulses, so there is a risk that
the radar will not work or will give inaccurate ranges.

-- Engineroom controls: Even though I was a deck officer, I was
interested in things mechanical and used to visit the engineroom, learning
how to start and stop the (diesel) engines. The older the ship, the less
likely it is to have problems due to embedded clock controllers. I've sailed
all kinds. One ship I sailed had a very modern diesel-electric propulsion
system in which computers controlled, recorded and reported literally
everything. In fact, the engineroom was unmanned from 1700 until 0800.
We (from the bridge) still sent a seaman around every hour to look for
things that the computer might have missed. We found a big problem
about 0200 during an Arctic winter voyage - we were all grateful for that
roving security that saved our lives. The point is, whatever is controlled
by any kind of modern electronic controller might be at risk. So, on most
modern commercial or military ships, I would consider the engineroom to
be a *very* dangerous place on December 31st, 1999. When things go
wrong and stuff starts blowing up, it happens in a real hurry. We used to
joke about going to sea: "Months of sheer boredom punctuated by
moments of sheer terror." I've had both! I've also drifted for hours when
the power and propulsion quit working. Not bad in the Gulf of Mexico in
summer. Really ugly in the Arctic or any of the extreme latitudes in the
winter. OK-enough sea stories.

-- Cargo handling controls: I never had the privilege of actually working a
semi-automated vessel; I had to do everything the hard way. But I can
picture an embedded controller failing to close a valve, causing a
chemical spill or fouling things up in some other way.

-- Cargo handling controls at the shipping terminal: Same deal as the
shipboard cargo handling automation, except more potential for messy
results on shore. 14 years ago, my ship used to call at a certain
well-known chemical refinery in TX. Even then, the operator's booth was
automated, with a computer monitor on the desk. I had to call for an
emergency shutdown one night, and it was impressive to hear those huge,
power-actuated valves slamming shut in the distance among their tank
farm. All the operator had to do was hit one button. But that same
computer might also open the wrong ones or fail to shut others due to
embedded controller problems.

Finally: as a programmer and systems analyst, I've known about Ed
Yourdon for years - he's the "grandaddy" of practical programming. I
have great respect for him, and I know from my own research that his
figures on software project failures are accurate. Many large projects
fail, most have limited functionality and are full of bugs. Death march
projects which run late always cut corners. Two corners that really
shouldn't be cut are peer reviews (which remediation projects will
probably NEVER do) and testing. We will/have run out of time and
capacity for proper testing/fixing/retesting/cutover. I would say that most
projects done in a frantic mode are more prone to error, but testing will
certainly get cut short because of time.

Did I "over-answer" your question? Regards .................... gary

Answered by Gary Carlson (gscarlsn@erols.com) on April 27, 1998.

I have no personal knowledge of Y2K and shipping. However, a couple
of relevant articles have been printed in "Shipping Times." URLs are
below. These URLs came from the Y2K Clippings Page at
year2000.com

asia1.com.sg@PD>19980419?AND?@PD<19980426)'+1+1+'-PD,HDA,CO,PHA'

asia1.com.sg@PD>19980301?AND?@PD<19980327)'+1+2+'-PD,HDA,CO,PHA'

Answered by Vincent Perricelli (73377.1766@compuserve.com) on April 29, 1998.

____

From:

greenspun.com
yourdon.com



To: John Mansfield who wrote (341)5/1/1998 6:09:00 PM
From: John Mansfield  Respond to of 618
 
[UTILITIES]'Electric Power Research Institute once
again releases its Y2K Embedded Systems
Participating Utilities List

04/28/1998: After several months of withdrawing its Y2K Embedded
Systems Participating Utilities List from public view, EPRI has a web
page listing its EPRI Year 2000 Embedded Systems Project
Participants (Agreements Finalized and or In Process).

Fortunately, for MAPP utility customers (MAPP is the Mid-Continent
Area Power Pool (http://www.mapp.org), several utilities, including
my own, NSP (http://www.nspco.com) have joined. The list as of
4/17/1998 includes the following companies. Note that some of
them are foreign-based, which is good. The ones that belong to
MAPP, according to a legislator familiar with MAPP's utilities have an
asterisk after their name below. Another item of interest is that
Houston Industries is the parent company of Minnegasco, the gas
utility serving the Twin Cities and other locations, in Minnesota.

Note, by itself, belonging to EPRI does not mean they will be
successful, however it is better than nothing. One can not pass a
course test if they do not take the class; at least now, it appears
some large Minnesota utilities are at least taking the class. However,
whether they are doing adequate homework and whether they have
the smarts, that is another thing -- the final exam is what counts and
only that. On top of this, this is a class where the exam answers are
not known ahead of time, even to the Professor? And the class has
never been taught before. The professor is nothing more than a
better student than the rest. Do you want to bet your life on all of the
critical players in the class getting an "A"? I am willing too if there is
a first class, community-wide fallback plan that people know and are
comfortable with like a fire drill.

Otherwise, I am uncomfortable not being safely prepared. That's
because, for Minnesotans, that involves: your electric utility, the
water and gas utilities, the toxic chemical factories (that if they
explode endanger nearby residents) the railroads that deliver the
coal that supplies about 80% of Minnesotans' electricity, the mining
companies, the petroleum companies that supply the diesel to the
trains, the oil tankers, the shipping ports both here and in the OPEC
companies, the oil rigs, oil wells, oil refineries, and all of the electric
utilities that supply the electricity to the electronic switches that the
trains rely upon from their source of coal to Minnesota? (If the coal is
from Wyoming, where a lot of the coal comes from, that means a lot
of utility service areas in that railroad route.) That is so many players
that it is a classroom full and how many times have you seen a
whole classroom get A's on their grade?

Allegheny Power System
Ameren Union Electric
American Electric Power
Arizona Public Service
Baltimore Gas & Electric
Boston Edison
Carolina Power & Light
Central & Southwest
Central Hudson Gas & Electric
Chevron (Caltex)
Cinergy
Commonwealth Edison
Consolidated Edison
Dairyland Power Coop.*
Dayton Power & Light
Detroit Edison
Dominion Energy
Duquesne Light Company
East Kentucky Power Coop.
Edmonton Power (Canada)
Electric Power Develop. Co., Ltd. (Japan)
Entergy
Eskom (So. Africa)
First Energy Corp.
Florida Power Corp.
General Public Utilities
Houston Industries
IVO (Finland)
Illinois Power Company
Indianapolis Power & Light
Israel Electric
Kansas City Power & Light
LA Dept. of Water and Power
Long Island Lighting Co.
MidAmerican
Nebraska Public Power District*
Nevada Power Company
New York Power Authority
Niagara Mohawk
North Atlantic (Seabrook Nuclear)
Northeast Utilities
Northern States Power*
Nuclear Electric (England)
Omaha Public Power District*
Orange & Rockland
PECO Nuclear
PacifiCorp
Pacific Gas & Electric Co.
Potomac Electric Power Company
Public Service Co. of New Mexico
Public Service Electric & Gas
SASK Power (Canada)
Salt River Project
South Carolina Electric & Gas
South Texas Project
Southern California Edison
Southern Company
Tennessee Valley Authority
Texaco (Caltex)
Texas Utilities Electric Company
Trans Alta (Canada)
Western Resources
Wisconsin Electric Power*
Wisconsin Power & Light*