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To: Thomas Calvet who wrote (14962)	5/6/1998 11:00:00 PM
From: Grainne	Respond to of 39621

Tom, most of the religions over the course of history have not even had a concept of "sin" in a carnal way, understanding for example that there is really no natural division between the body, the mind, and the spirit. Particularly in traditional Eastern religions, the functions of the body--including sexual expression that is much wilder than anything ever contemplated by the Christians--are considered perfectly normal and acceptable. In the larger scheme of things, it would be considered strange to consider a child as being born sinful, and thus needing baptism. I am afraid this is quite a strange concept to me, as well. Babies are born with their own personalities and temperments, but only children who have been damaged or abused in some way ever really become sinful in a real sense--that of violating the rights of others by stealing or committing other crimes. I understand that according to your religious beliefs, people are born in sin, but really, it is not a universal concept at all, now or historically. Obviously, carrying that a bit further, people who do not consider themselves born in sin do not feel any need to be saved.