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Pastimes : The 70th Week of Daniel -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Jane Hafker who wrote (64)	5/2/1998 11:04:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 344

Dear Jane, That is exactly what he is saying. The Church is the True Israel of God and this is His Kingdom a Spiritual Kingdom. He will dwell with all of His people including Israel is all I am saying. But it is insane to say this is the Kingdom and that there is no future earthly reign. This is Amelinealism and what I disagree with. They also believe that all the promises to Israel are fulfilled in them now. I pray you have a joyful and filling day in the Lord, Nancy

To: Jane Hafker who wrote (64)	5/4/1998 12:56:00 AM
From: lewis wireman	Respond to of 344

Folks, the suffering of Jesus was not the death upon the cross. That was shame, but not suffering common to Jesus only. Remember that crusifixion was a common method of punishment by the Romans. No. The true suffering was the becoming sin itself, and the seperation from God because Jesus, who was without sin and was holly, had in fact taken on all of the sin of the world, past, present and future. That sin actually seperated Jesus from God. Recall his anguishing call, "My God, My God. Why hast thou forsakened me." God did remove Jesus from his presence, until such time as Jesus had taken that sin into Hell. It was only thin that God could lift Jesus from Hell, because the sin that Jesus carried into Hell was not the sin of Jesus, but the sin of others. That is why Satan had no claim upon Jesus. That is why God made the church the bride of Christ and part of the body of Chist. Recall that God ordained marriage and said that the two will become one flesh, one body. That is why we, as the bride of Christ, are one flesh with Christ and as God could raise Christ form the grave and from Hell because he was sinless, he can raise us from the grave and from hell because we are part of the body of Christ and therefore are sinless as he is sinless. That is why Satan cannot cry foul and acquise God of wrongdoing, when we are raised as part of the body of christ. Sence we are part of christ body, having been married to him and take on His rightness, we are indeed rightous and Satan has no claim upon us. Isn't it beautiful.