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Pastimes : The Grafted Tree (Gentile's & Jews learn from each other) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (587)	5/3/1998 1:24:00 PM
From: DLL	Respond to of 702

Dear Nancy; What seems obvious to me is that these people should not be so eager to have G-d go back on his promise. First thousands and thousand so Jews accepted their Messiah on Pentecost, and thousands more right after as is documented throughout Act. How good did the Jews need to be? This seems to base the promises of G-d on works. I hope these Amelinealists stay straight or G-d may dump his promise to them. Without the promise to Israel, we gentiles have little hope, as we were grafted into their promise. Eph. 2:11 Therefore remember that formerly you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by the so-called Circumcision, which is performed in the flesh by human hands -- 12 remember that you were at that time separate from Christ, excluded from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. As far as making a mistake to admit to being a Messianic Jew, I am proud to pitch my tent in the camp of Israel, and proud to support you and your husband against such hatred. Shalom uv'rachah b'Yeshua HaMashiach - DLL

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (587)	5/3/1998 6:41:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Respond to of 702

"Dear Donald, Emile is what is know as a Covenant Amelinealist." Wrong! Emile is what is known as a mere Christian; a strange term and repulsive term for a heretic like yourself. ---------------------------------------------- "Israel was used by God and then (Him foreknowing they would stumble) dumped them for His true choice the Church." False. Israel, the Jews with the faith of Abraham, accepted the New Covenant and became Christians. The false Jews or the "Synagogue of Satan"Rev. 2;9, 3;9 rejected the Messiah and formed Talmudic modern Judaism. They are not children of faith but children of the flesh because they reject the most high God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob--Jesus Christ. You are possessed by a lying spirit.

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (587)	5/3/1998 7:06:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 702

"He also calls himself a Spiritual Jew. Sounds like Rev. 2:9 to me." It is the Holy Spirit that defines Christians as Jews and the heirs of Abraham under the New Covenant. Why do you resist the teachings of the Holy Spirit in the holy Word of God. Phil.3 2: Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision(antichrist Jews). 3: For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. Romans 2 28: For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. ------------------------- Galatians 3 16: Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. -------------------------- Galatians 3 29: And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. --------------------------- 1Pet.2 4: To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, 5: Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. 9: But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: ------------------------- Oh you Judaizers, why do you insist on resisting the Holy Spirit. It is good to evangelize the Jews by clever means, but it is never good to deny or twist the Word of God in evangelizing.

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (587)	5/3/1998 7:19:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Respond to of 702

"This is interesting to me because he says the OT is dead and he has no interest in being a Jew." Neither Emile nor any Christian on SI has ever said that the Old Testament was dead but you! The spirit of the OT is indeed dead for you because you are a supporter of the teachings of those who reject Christ. You have enveloped your heart with the dark vail that envelops the hearts of antichrist Judaism. It is modern Judaism that rejects the Old Testament because Jesus said: John 5:"45: Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. 46: For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47: But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words? You speak about things you know nothing about and attempt to pervert immature young Christians with your darkness. You have repeated this lie about me and other Christians like Bob, Chris, Robert and others saying "the OT is dead" becasue you are possessed by a spirit of deception. It is only by lies you can spread hatred and innuendo against those who correct your heresies. You are children of darkness who will not let the full light of Jesus's New Covenant shine in your hearts. Like dogs returning to their vomit, you continuously return to the false teachings of Talmudic Judaism--institutional hatred of Jesus. Jesus Christ is the only hope of salvation and all those who reject Him are still in the darkness of Satan. All your dark and false words will never change this truth. Christ forever the only hope of salvation.