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Pastimes : The Grafted Tree (Gentile's & Jews learn from each other) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (620)	5/5/1998 4:05:00 AM
From: craig shipman	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 702

Wouldn't it be a wondrous thing to behold if Yeshua himself were to secretly come to this thread to teach Christians the way of salvation? Can you imagine the dialogue that would take place as Yeshua tells of the good news, the simplicity of YHWH's plan for the righting of mankind through faith in Yeshua and loving obedience to YHWH? The interaction would be hilarious, if it were not such a tragic illustration of how far astray many have been led by blindly following blind guides. I can readily imagine Christians responding to YHWH's Messiah with these sort of replies, as they attempt to persuade and convert Yeshua to "Christianity": * You just want things to go to the order of your own understanding don't you? * I hope God gives you a broken spirit and a contrite heart all the reamining years of your life that you may be filled with the presence of the Lord. * I've prayed for you a number of times in the past but today was special. * If you could have backed it up with proof you certainly would have...but you couldn't so you didn't. (and if you had, I would have closed my eyes!) * I have claimed my beliefs many times. (Yeshua doesn't care what your beliefs are, as long as you are obedient to YHWH!) * I see a gaping wound of raw bitterness that Jesus is willing to heal if you will let Him. You have never been in the presence of Jesus in your life. But I would now ask you to come to Him and bare your heart in a spirit of true humility. * Elementary Christianity, not something learned in Talmudic Judaism. (Yeshua didn't teach Talmudic Judaism, He taught Tanakh!) * You need to start attending a good Christian Church to learn about the Christian faith. (I wonder how long it would take Yeshua, an observant Jewish rabbi, to get kicked out?) * Am I get the scent of Mormonism or Israel Identity? Are these just innocent questions? * The only place where it is appropriate to call Jesus Yeshua is where men speak Hebrew as their native language as in Israel. (Would it be o.k. if Yeshua called you by some other name, assuming, of course, that He is not in France?) * It is inappropriate to try to change His name to the Hebrew Yeshua as if in doing so it gives his name some vodoo or magical language power. (Which of us changes His name? Are you saying that there is no extraordinary power in His name?) * I do not mean to offend but only to correct what is a foolish trend by those who have made and idol out of modern Judaism and the Hebrew language. (If it is good enough for Yeshua, it is good enough for me! What IS it that you call "modern Judaism", anyway?) * This statement shows that you are either not a Christians or a poor user of the English language. (Yes, I stopped claiming to be a Christian when I came to know Yeshua, Praise YHWH!!) * It is your lack of understanding of Christian New Covenant teaching that causes you make such comments. (Yeshua would undoubtedly not understand ANYTHING about some "New Covenant") * You need to immerse yourself in the New Testament and the Old until you experience the reality of the New Covenant--The New and living way into the Holy of Holies. (How did the first believers do it, I mean without the "New Testament") * Sound like you are entangled in the meshes of the net, but you must let the Holy Spirit bring you in to shore. (I was entangled in a snare, but Yeshua freed me from it, Praise YHWH!!) * You've been on my mind and in my heart as I see in the spirit a tug of war for your soul. A certain terror fell upon me for your soul. I can see Satan trying to tear you from the simple Gospel of our Lord Jesus. (No, it is you who would tear from me the simple gospel of Yeshua! Hey! Whose side are you on!) * The Holy Spirit is obviously doing a work in your life, but Satan is also busy trying to destroy this work. (No fooling! :-) * May the Holy Spirit open your eyes to the truth according to the sincerity of your heart. (A little sincerity is a DANGEROUS thing, and the heart deceptively wicked! It is far better to have a meek and humble (obedient) spirit) * How do I confront the damaging false doctrines that you ... are putting out? (Yeshua might ask you the same thing! No, He already took care of that problem.) Hunger and thirst after righteousness. Shalom, Craig