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Biotech / Medical : Chromatics Color Sciences (CCSI)--Non-Flaming Discussion -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Stephen Kahn who wrote (1)5/6/1998 12:35:00 PM
From: Ron Harvey  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 44
 
Well, it's quite possible that S. will emerge from his lair to attempt to savage with swearing and name-calling anyone who disagrees or even attempts objectivity. But if it happens, so be it. The guy has made me so much money that I'd have to be an awful ingrate to snap back.
Anyway, here are some thoughts about CCSI from someone who tries to make money in stocks from the short to intermediate term:
1. The arguments of the several bears on the other board have really served the cause of the longs: foolish ad hominum attacks on the CEO, gross misstatements of trivial facts, accusations that this non-earnings development company is actually a non-earnings development company, ignoring the fact that the market is regularly based on current perceptions of future perceptions, etc. Who but odd-lot novices would would find this weak-tea attack credible?
2. S. has been a driving force with this stock, but he's undermined his credibility with just-around-the-corner cries so often that his support is probably discounted now, even among true believers. He's sincere, but his belief is so untempered that objectivity is sacrificed.
3. As with most message boards, the purpose of posts is not to cooly assess an investment with an eye to making money but for posters to assure each other that they've done the right thing and that they haven't made a mistake. While these two motivations overlap, there are some real psychological differences, fear of admitting to error being a powerful goad.
4. Re the stock per se: It's been a really good trading vehicle, and I sold when it hit 17 on Monday, figuring that it'll just drift down again for another possible buy. (This has worked for me several times.)
There's only one more chunk of big news remaining, and that's the partnership. And that's the news that's been awaited since the stock was much lower. This leads me to worry that the distribution deal may already be factored in to the price. When it's eventually announced, the stock will probably pop some, but there could be a quick onslaught of selling into it. If so, the next question relates to recovery. Considering the difficulties so many companies with nifty devices have faced, from manufacturing to profitable marketing, CCSI stock may be a buy only for long-term speculators. The next question is whether there'll be enough buyers to outbid the sellers who don't want to wait around long term. Of course, shorts buying back could be a help here, but shorts tend to hold more tenaciously than a lot of longs on the other board will give them credit for.

Enough for now.



To: Stephen Kahn who wrote (1)5/6/1998 1:32:00 PM
From: max  Respond to of 44
 
Best of luck with your mission. As I see it:
PROS-
1-FDA approval for the device, which is obviously crucial. The device works.
2-Demand for non-invasive monitoring. The specific size of the market has been the subject of "debate" on the other thread. These numbers have been theoretically based on historical levels of bili testing. As I see, the wild card is the level of increased testing that could result out of the ability to do it non invasively. IMO, a parent, nurse, or physician is inclined to believe the physician's eyeball when the only alternative is a heel prick. With the availability of a non invasive alternative, I believe its likely we'll see testing numbers above historical levels.
3-The Company has assembled an impressive array of physicians, investment bankers, auditors, etc. to assist in the negotiations with potential distribution partners. The presence of the pre-emminent physicians in neo natal and pediatric care gives the argument in favor of increased demand a certain degree of credence. The bankers have the ability to bring large multinational players to the table, and one has to believe they were instrumental in the selection of BDO Seidman as the new auditors. If they have been as successful at bringing in potential partners, as the Company has insinuated, then the rumored deal could well be imminent. Concerning the auditors, it should be noted that Wiss and Co., the former auditors, issued a "clean" bill of health in their last report.
4-Anyone who has called the Company(my call was about 3 weeks ago), has been assured that everything is moving along fine, there are multiple suitors, and there are still a few details to work out. The Company is insisting on a 50-50 partnership deal, with the Company responsible for manufacturing, and the partner marketing and distribution.
5-It is important, when taking number 4 above into consideration, to determine for ones self the Company's credibility in statements made to shareholders. To the best of my knowledge, they have delivered, to date, everything as previously described, with the obvious exception of a distribution partner.
6-There are other potential applications for CCSI's technology, with clinical dermatological applications now beginning at Mt. Sinai. The Company has said that it will seek to maintain rights to other applications during their negotiations with bili partners.

CONS
1-There is still no distribution partner, therefore no earnings model. I believe the current stock price is based on earnings capabilities which fall somewhere in between a 3-5% royalty, and the 50-50 deal the Company says is imminent. How close to either is largely dependent on the true demand for the device.
2-There is a competitive product(SPRX) in development, and it is currently being marketed overseas. It does not have FDA approval, and has yet to be shown to work.

It should be clear that I am long CCSI. I believe that, with professional marketing aimed at the peace of mind of both parents and health care professionals, that CCSI's device will replace the physicians eyeball as a low cost, more effective non invasive monitoring tool.
I also believe that the Company is on the level. This is my personal opinion, which has evolved out of a phone conversation with the CEO, a visit to the office in New York, discussions with health care professionals who are familiar with taking blood from infants, (and the adult's associated psychological trauma), and discussions with other investors who have done their own research.
At the moment, traders are in control of this stock. Developmental companies go up on good news, and down on bad, or no news. Traders don't have staying power for "imminent" news, and create high volatility. Investors that believe in CCSI will remain long if they truly believe in its prospects, and will ignore the daily fluctuations. Those that don't will close out their positions and move on, most with sizable gains at current levels. The same goes for the shorts. Those that continue to believe that the bullish sentiment is hype will continue to support their positions with further selling. Those that no longer believe this will cover and move on, albeit largely out of the money.
Right now the traders rule. There will be a distribution agreement, and the specifics of it will determine who is right.

Good luck with keeping this thread civil and informative.



To: Stephen Kahn who wrote (1)5/6/1998 2:22:00 PM
From: Stephen Kahn  Respond to of 44
 
My thanks to everyone who has posted so far. You've provided a lot of food for thought.

I've got to take off for work now, and who knows what I'll find when I get back? Just a reminder to anyone who feels the onset of "modem rage" or an overwhelming urge to sarcasm or similar drastic urges--go ahead an ventilate--after all, why else was the Internet invented if not to give us a safe outlet for our aggressive impulses? Just remember to do it on the other thread. Here's the link just in case you've forgotten:

Subject 2698



To: Stephen Kahn who wrote (1)5/14/1998 12:03:00 AM
From: jpbrody  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 44
 
Someone on the yahoo board pointed out this link:
spectrx.com

It's an analysis by Hambrecht and Quist of SpectRx, a competitor to CCSI. I also found a summary of the report at hamquist.com if you don't have the capability to read pdf files.

Here's an excerpt:
"In the United States alone, an estimated 1.7 million newborns receive at least one blood test to measure bilirubin. The worldwide market for
bilirubin testing is an estimated $180 million annually at an average of $10 per test. "

"SpectRx receives an average of approximately $2.00 for each disposable. With a potential U.S. market of 6 million tests per year, the disposable product addresses a potential market of $15 million. The measurement instrument should sell to the end-user for around $4,000 and make up the bulk of revenues for at least a few years. "

I believe that these are realistic numbers that should also pertain to CCSI. There is still, of course, a question of market share.