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To: E_K_S who wrote (9685)	5/6/1998 9:57:00 PM
From: SSS	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

this is total bunk. 1. the solaris kernel already scales well on Intel hardware (especially compared to NT). throughput increases linearly as CPU's are added. of course, on current Intel hardware, the max #of CPU's doesn't come close to an E10000, so the limitation is in the hardware, not in Solaris. 2. "scalability function is owned by SMCC????" this is silly. No Solaris code was owned by SMCC. ("was", since the opco's don't exist anymore). 3. even sillier is the notion that Solaris contains a "scalability function". the solaris kernel is multithreaded. the solaris shared libraries are multithreaded. the entire OS is designed to take advantage of multiprocessor hardware. there is no single magic "scalability function". the dec guy is totally blowing smoke. ------------------ ANSWER: We believe we have a very compelling value proposition to the Intel and the Unix community relative to Solaris. Although Sun won't say this, when you talk to people they're recruiting, Sun is not putting all of Solaris on IA-64. They are withholding the scalability functionality. If you look at the organizational structure, Solaris is owned by SunSoft. But the scalability function is owned by Sun Microsystems Computer Corp., the folks who own the Ultra Enterprise 10000. That stuff is not going to get ported.

To: E_K_S who wrote (9685)	5/7/1998 12:05:00 AM
From: paul	Respond to of 64865

hmmm...Digital - the "titanic" of the computer industry. what a ridiculous statement, I think the fact that scalability has been with SPARC in the past has something do to with IA-32 chips that dont scale well. Merced is the first 64 bit architecture from Intel "promised" for 1999 so it has the first chance of any Intel chip to be used for Enterprise Applications. Of course Digital Unix unlike Solaris doesnt run on any existing Intel Chip so its just vaporware.

To: E_K_S who wrote (9685)	5/8/1998 9:51:00 PM
From: micromike	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

Mike - Here is Digital's response to why their UNIX product is better than Sun's Solaris. Any idea as to what Sun's upgrade path is for customers that plan to utilize the Intel Merced processor and need scalability? Will they have to eventually upgrade to a SPARC processor? Since the Intel Merced chip isn't out and I haven't been following the design specs. I have no idea how it will perform and what configurations they will design for it so I can't give you MHO. I'm not sure if this has been posted since this thread is getting out of control with all the scrapping going on. I've been skipping any post with a twit* on it. Unix: The Next Generation techweb.com The $20 billion Unix market is surging with activity as vendors position themselves for the arrival of Intel's forthcoming 64-bit processors. The potential benefits include improved scalability, lower prices through fiercer competition and standardized hardware, and an easier-to-use interface designed to take on Windows NT. Among the longer-term projects, sources say, is a highly sensitive IBM-Sun Microsystems initiative to develop a next-generation Unix that is tightly integrated with Java. Unix is a large, growing, and profitable market." --- I would guess that Digital,HP and a wanna be MS will lose market share for enterprise systems if this is true. IBM-Sun Microsystems initiative to develop a next-generation Unix JMHO Mike