To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (21405 ) 5/8/1998 3:46:00 PM From: Grainne Respond to of 108807
<A member of the extended family "came out" recently. On his last stay with us I determined (acoustically, not by direct examination, y'all pervs) that he Stands. Now, I don't expect him to act straight, but if he could only shoot straight...> Well, thank you, Alex!!! This is our first solid information about homosexual peeing styles. Now that I think about it, I have been close enough to a couple of gay men to figure out the way they did it, and it was definitely standing up, as well. I am wondering if there is any correlation between the societal pressures on little boys who already may feel effeminate and unsure of their sexuality, and trying to do everything they can in the most masculine way, to avoid questions and teasing by other boys. I wonder as well, whether homosexual boys in families where their parents accept them the way they are may feel more confident about peeing sitting down if they feel like it. If anyone has any information on this, please share it. I saw part of an interview with Ellen DeGeneres and her mother yesterday, incidentally, and Ellen was crying because her show was cancelled. She feels it was because the network was not comfortable with the gay subject matter, and didn't know how to promote it. I watched it a few times after she "came out" on it, and just didn't find it humorous at all. Everything seemed very forced, and not funny. I have had lots of gay friends, and they are just like everyone else. Their sexual identity is not something they talk about intensely or frequently; it is just something else about them, like where they live and what they look like--a fact. I felt sad watching Ellen cry, but to me she just lost touch with what a comedian should be worrying about--whether her show made people laugh. It will really be significant when there are television shows with openly gay characters who are just treated like everyone else! It was really nice seeing her mother, though, who has always accepted Ellen as gay and is the head of a national organization promoting tolerance for homosexuals in our society. She said that she hopes that in ten or fifteen years, it will seem bizarre that we were so worried about things like this, and will just take people the way they are, as human beings. Getting back to the underlying discussion here about homosexual teenagers, Ellen said that although she is really broken up about her show being cancelled, she is not sorry that she came out on television, because she has gotten letters from hundreds of gay teenagers who told her they did not kill themselves because of her, and that it was all worth it simply for that. I would certainly agree!