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To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (6166)	5/9/1998 11:06:00 PM
From: sibe	Respond to of 10786

Will the promise of more Alydaar stock options attract and keep the Y2k programmers and managers? Message 4394738 [RATES] Hamasaki: 'Re: RATES ON THE RISE!' During 1997 Cory Hamasaki has focussed a lot of attention of rates. The last 6 months or so we did not hear much about the predicted huge increases in rates (for programmers, that is). This is changing..very interesting discussion below. John ______ On Fri, 8 May 1998 09:27:28, "D. Scott Secor - Millennial Infarction Mitigator" <y2k@uswest.net.NO$PAM> wrote: > Interesting ... VERY interesting! It would appear that the "sleepy" markets > are awakening. > > I'm seeing a few armor chinks in the local market (Minneapolis/Saint Paul, > aka Silicon Valley North) as well. I recently attended a local > head-hunter-sponsored "Job Fair" and passed around my one-page resume (Y2K > Project Manager background). > > I began by asking $100/hr. ... not a flinch. Then I asked $125/hr. ... > still no flinches. Finally, $150/hr. cocked an eyebrow and caused a > singular "that seems a bit high" in response. This tells me that the > head-hunters would probably bill me out at $175-$225 (I charge less). Were > the rest of you local contract PMs listening to this? Doesn't sound high to me... but what do I know, I thought they should have paid $100/hour a year ago, stated that openly, and got flamed for it. While I have your attention, any company could have had their pick of the litter a year ago at $100/hour. Now, forget it, unless you're a personal friend or a long time client, and you cop a sub-100 attitude, get back to the end of the line. We're at 100/100, that's $100K/year W2 with benefits or $100/hour for consultants. Here's another metric for you, I called a company that I've worked with in the past, I need some short term work done by a couple of their specialists, as a favor, it's me; here's their price, $250/hour or $2,000/day plus expenses. > > I also have a sizable pool of COBOL-cranking associates from which to draw, > from $75/hr. (up by $10 in the past month). My quote is $10 to $20 lower > than what local body shops would charge for comparable talent. > > I also have a client that could use up to FIVE programmers who are > well-versed in assembler, billing at same rates. Any takers? Not at $75/hour... maybe Eastabrook would be willing to tn3270 in? Actually that might not be a bad arrangement. > > Interested parties can e-mail me for further details (strip my ".no$pam" > filter first). > > I believe that these rates will be viewed as being downright "nostalgic" in > another couple of months. The number of open positions is expanding, and > the talent pool is shrinking. Anyone want to guess the next level? My friends are quoting $250/hour to me. For you... $350??? > > Please be advised, we apply a local (albeit P.C.) courtesy known as > "Minnesota Nice" to everything we do in this State. Therefore, mandatory > overtime will hereafter be refered to as an "Ambiant Body Temperature > March". > > Ciao, > > > Scott Secor cory hamasaki ____ Subject: Re: RATES ON THE RISE! (was Re: Rates) Date: 8 May 1998 18:28:02 GMT From: kiyoinc@ibm.XOUT.net (cory hamasaki) Organization: IBM.NET Newsgroups: comp.software.year-2000 References: 1 , 2 , 3

To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (6166)	5/10/1998 3:39:00 PM
From: CharlieBoy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10786

Jeffrey The current thought is that the Euro problem will take up between two to three times the resource (and expense) of that needed for Y2K. However please do not take this as a statement that ALYD stock should shoot. You know exactly what I mean when I say that for Euro you need Field Expansion not Windowing, and at the moment Field Expansion is not a strong point for ALYD. Hope you and yours are keeping well. CharlieBoy