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To: John Mansfield who wrote (370)	5/12/1998 4:15:00 PM
From: John Mansfield	Respond to of 618

[COWLES] '"The Number of Electricity Suppliers in Today's Power Market "' 'Last post on the subject: here's what I dredged up in about an hour's worth of time. My bill is in the mail. eei.org "The Number of Electricity Suppliers in Today's Power Market " (from Edison Electric Institute) This site provides a table, by category of producer, as of March, 1998. In summary, there are 7,819 individual companies generating and/or distributing power. The 'public power' portion of this table is somewhat at variance with that shown at eia.doe.gov , but not that much. Note that these figures change on an annual basis, and I would tend to guess that EEI's figures are a bit on the low side. -- Rick Cowles (Public PGP key on request) Now Shipping From AMAZON.COM: "Electric Utilities and Y2k" - The Book euy2k.com ______ Subject: Re: To Rick C. - 9,000 power companies? From: rcowles@waterw.com (Rick Cowles) Date: 1998/05/11 Message-ID: <3558c041.3599921@enews.newsguy.com> Newsgroups: comp.software.year-2000 [More Headers] [Subscribe to comp.software.year-2000] _________ fROM eei.org 'The total number of each supplier (as of March 1998) is shown below. Shareholder-owned Utilities 223 Cooperatives 922 Municipal Systems 1,818 Public Power Districts 75 State Projects 68 Federal Agencies 37 Non-utility Generators (excluding EWGs) 4,132 Domestic Exempt Wholesale Generators (EWGs) 144 Power Marketers 40

To: John Mansfield who wrote (370)	5/17/1998 2:18:00 PM
From: John Mansfield	Respond to of 618

[HARLAN] Harlan vs. Swirbul 'Fred Swirbul <fswirbul@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article <6jbce8$h1s@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>... > No objective evidence to talk about rate of progress. Next meeting is in > about three months. Then some comparisons could be made. Many plants are tied > into their already existing outage schedules. If your plants scheduled outage > starts in 1/99, that is when you will probably finish your testing, fix Y2K > problems you knew about going into the outage, and then have to decide > if you need another "forced" outage sometime before 1/1/2000. Fred, thanks for the additional information BUT I must comment and question: a) Grand plans are being made "in the absence of knowledge" b) Methinks forced shutdowns are needed NOW! c) 1999 will be an extremely poor time to discover problems. d) Problems must be unearthed now, while there still _may be time to deal with them. e) How can such planning, based on absence of knowledge, be condoned or tolerated? f) Are utility managers completely oblivious to the fact that testing, analyzing, procuring parts from vendors, preparing test plans are mostly sequential activities and we are running out of time. What you have just told us is that the utilities are "Defaulting to Disaster". VERY BAD ATTITUDE, I WOULD SAY! Harlan ___ Subject: Maybe another "forced outage"? Date: 16 May 1998 12:58:18 EDT From: "Harlan Smith" <hwsmith.nowhere@cris.com> Organization: Paperless Newsgroups: comp.software.year-2000 References: 1 , 2 , 3