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To: Travis who wrote (13470)5/11/1998 10:51:00 PM
From: J R KARY  Respond to of 213177
 
A kindler , gentler news review of Mac's future OS

Travis looks like Mac OS legacy developers are happy :

" The new Mac OS X software -- appearing on Apple's high-end computers next year -- weaves in Rhapsody's ability to let users perform several tasks at once and protect the computer from crashes.

And programs written for existing Macs require far less reworking to take advantage of the new system's features than they would with Rhapsody. "


techserver.com

Keeping the supply side of the choir business happy .

Regards,
Jim K.



To: Travis who wrote (13470)5/11/1998 10:59:00 PM
From: Oliver P. Poitrimol  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 213177
 
WHY IS EVERYBODY SO CONFUSED?
There are way too many rumors circulating around here.
Get your act together.

P.S: An apple a day keeps my wallet OK.

Oliver



To: Travis who wrote (13470)5/11/1998 11:08:00 PM
From: e. boolean  Respond to of 213177
 
Travis -

See post #13467 for the latest from WWDC on Rhapsody. It will not just see release 1.0 - it will be supported on its own into future releases. The only thing that has changed as of today is the great news of seamless legacy code migration. Developers are committed to Rhapsody, and with good reason.

e.b.



To: Travis who wrote (13470)5/11/1998 11:12:00 PM
From: Scott Crumley  Respond to of 213177
 
Travis,

Why will developers want to develop for Rhapsody if it's only ever going to see a 1.0 release and if there current mac apps will run under mac os 10? Why bother with rhapsody?

Anyone needing the power of the Mach kernal and Yellow box, can get it with the release of Rhapsody in Q3. I guess that might include developers, folks that need powerful server software and power users (anyone else, pipe in here). Anyone that develops for Rhapsody now, can be assured that their applications will have a future under MacOS 10. Due to this convergence, legacy developers have a reason to continue development and new developers have a reason to get started.

Adam!!!!.....have I got this right?

Regards,

Scott



To: Travis who wrote (13470)5/11/1998 11:17:00 PM
From: J R KARY  Respond to of 213177
 
Travis , a Rhapsody CR1 single edition raises questions

The MacOS X favors legacy developers with ease of conversion so this OS would not appeal to them , but to who ?

Gavin Young has some ideas : home1.gte.net

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Subject: Rhapsody
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 16:45:20 -0700
From: Gavin Gregor Young <gyoung2@gte.net>
Organization:
n/a
To:
jamesx@ibm.net

I wonder if the "X" in Mac OS X means not only 10 (as in Release #10)
but also "cross" as in "cross platform (including the ability to run Mac OS 8 apps on Intel via Rhapsody/Mac OS X). Maybe the bad 2000 Mac OS APIs are bad in part because maybe they write to hardware.

Using only the Carbon APIs might make it possible to have Mac OS 8 apps run on Intel. (Quick time uses the Mac OS APIs and uses the same code set on both Windows and Macs - maybe these APIs are Carbon APIs!)
I think that Rhapsody as a separate product won't exist beyond release 1, but that most of it will exist in Mac OS X.

In the demo, a carbon app was shown running on Rhapsody DR2, thus
Rhapsody components will survive into Mac OS X!

Speculation:

Mac OS X = MACH + BSD + Yellow Box + Carbon (in place of Blue Box)

On top of PowerPC (optimized for G3 but supporting 603 and 604 and
possibly 601) and Intel.

Support for running Mac OS 8 on Intel is far from complete, hence the
reason why Jobs hasn't announced that feature at this time. Likewise he
might not wish to announce Windows support till after Mac developers
have committed to Carbon and/or Yellow Box (doesn't want to repeat IBM's
mistake with OS/2?). Yellow Box will be kept because of its selling
point as a cross platform environment and because their are several
OPENSTEP/Rhapsody apps already on the market. Then again if Carbon can
run Mac OS 8 aps on Intel, maybe Yellow Box is unneeded.

Steve knows that many people are following the rumors, and he wants the
stock to rise at a steady pace. Therefore he might be planning to
announce Intel support of Mac OS 8 apps and Windows supports at later
times.

Some of these things might be announced till after Mac OS X ships
in Jan. '99, or till the MacWorld in January '99. He also probably
doesn't MSFT to know about these plans, till those features are ready to ship.

Apple's current stock behavior suggests that attempting to time it to
take advantage of big price swings won't be a good strategy. It looks
like the best strategy for now, until at least mid '99, is a buy and
hold strategy.

The above content is being added to my website today.

Gavin
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My thought is , if S. Jobs is serious about not having a dual OS strategy , he will sell or license Rhapsody .

Regards,
Jim K.