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To: John Mansfield who wrote (1783)5/13/1998 2:55:00 PM
From: John Mansfield  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 9818
 
[HAMASAKI] 'can it be done at all, at any price, by anyone'


'At this stage of the game, it's *not* about cost. It's about can it be done at
all, at any price, by anyone. I know what I can do. I've seen some amazing
feats of coding performed. There are tasks that I would walk away from, they
can't be done. Five thousand dollars an hour and you want a guarentee? Forget
it... not interested.'

__________

'On Wed, 13 May 1998 00:57:02, "Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <nospam@osg.eds.com> wrote:

> fedinfo@halifax.com wrote:
>
> > Please explain what is involved in the elimination of TCAM in favor of
> > something else?
>
> If the something else is anything other than a Y2k release of TCAM,
> you're talking a total rewrite. If Cory didn't make up the part about
> putting message processing code into the MCP, it would get truly
> ghastly.

Make it up? I was screaming in terror on the inside when I saw it. 80%
screaming, the other 20% was crying from embarrassment because they (How can we
forgive them?) were proud of the system.

For the non-S/370 code-heads out there, a TCAM MCP is written in S/370 assembly
language using macros that most assembler programmers haven't seen. STARTMH,
FORWARD, SCAN, come to mind. It looks vaguely like an SGML formatted document.
The language standards are *not* OS/VS2 (remember this name?) They're TCAM
standards. TCAM has its own CVT, its own protection key, its own user side
macros for queue management. Some of the standard macros have TCAM specific
extensions.

When you slam application specific logic in, it becomes a huge mess

>
> The obvious candidate for a rewrite is IBM's MQseries, but there isn't
> enough time left.

Yes, but that gets us back to the discussion from a few months ago... is
MQseries the new TCAM? I thought yes, someone told me no.

>
> > This appears to be analogous to the FAA IBM 3083 problem. IBM has said that
> > the 3083 can not be fixed.
>
> Not at all analogous; a fix is available but the FAA doesn't want to
> spend the money. IBM sells processors that are compatible with the 3083
> and Y2k compliant. Let's all sing like the biridies do, cheap, cheap,
> cheap, cheap, cheap.

I think the 3083s used by the FAA have microcode and hardware changes. I don't
know what they are.

At this stage of the game, it's *not* about cost. It's about can it be done at
all, at any price, by anyone. I know what I can do. I've seen some amazing
feats of coding performed. There are tasks that I would walk away from, they
can't be done. Five thousand dollars an hour and you want a guarentee? Forget
it... not interested.

cory hamasaki pick your battles.

______

Subject:
Re: Why The US IS Sunk
Date:
13 May 1998 01:28:33 GMT
From:
kiyoinc@ibm.XOUT.net (cory hamasaki)
Organization:
IBM.NET
Newsgroups:
comp.software.year-2000
References:
1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7