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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (182)5/12/1998 9:54:00 PM
From: Robert E. Hall  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 344
 
Greetings Bob, I have great respect for your witness of our resurrected Lord, Jesus Christ and of our common salvation in Him. I cannot understand why you fail to see that God always had one people. The nation of Israel were Gods People in the Old Testament and since the promise given to them, was fullfilled by the Lord Jesus Christ. The people of God now are all nations of both Jew and Gentile, these are the true Israel of God, the Christian Church. Under the Old Covenant, Israel kept the land conditional on their obedience to God. (Deut 28) We see that they were removed from this land according to scriptures, and Deut. 28 was finally visited upon them in 70 AD. Please consider Bob, Abraham was not looking for a piece of real estate on the mediterranean as God had promised him. He was looking for a city whose builder is God. He looked ahead by faith to that land, we however, are now residents of this city, the New Jerusalem. Does it not make you ponder that Abraham never did own any of the land God had promised to him since he had to buy a piece of this land to bury his dead. To place the present state of Israel, which is apostate and anti-christ according to biblical definition, on some high elevated rank among nations and especially in Gods eyes shows that you to have been deceived as like many other have in these last days. I sincerly pray Bob that you will take the time to ask the Lord to show you what the Bible ALONE clearly teaches. Robert



To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (182)5/13/1998 4:34:00 AM
From: Emile Vidrine  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 344
 
Hi Bob,

I'm afraid you're wrong on this one. If you do not understand the great regathering of Israel that occurred under the ensign of Jesus, you have misunderstood Jesus's fulfillment of prophecies. Your concentration on modern Judaism and the modern Israeli's as the focus of prophecy is perhaps the greatest deception and heresy of our day. The Pharisees and Sadducees who rejected Jesus were looking for a worldly kingdom--a kingdom of the flesh--; that's why they rejected Jesus's Kingdom of the spirit. The Pharisees interpreted all the prophecies from a strickly lietera perspective to deny Jesus's fulfillment of these prophecies. Now you and many of the twentiety century have swallowed this antichrist and pharasaical interpretation of prophecies.
The Church is the focus of propecy for the last 2000 years. The Christian people are the children of God and belong to the family of God. They are a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people created through the shed Blood of Jesus. Hundreds of thousands of Jews(Israelites) accepted Jesus during the first century. This was the final regathering of the remanant (the good figs) that God had promised. The bad figs were destroyed and scattered as God had promised. Modern Judaism and modern Israel have no genealogy to prove their decent from Abraham as God had ordained in the Bible, they no Levitical priesthood, they have no Aaronic priesthood for the chief priests, they have no Davidic genealogy to establish a worldly kingdom, they have no authentic Temple furniture, etc. etc. etc.

The only authentic Israelite genealogy remining in the whole world is the genealogy of Jesus contained in the Gospels. All Christians trace their Abrahamic heritage through Jesus's genealogy.
The only priesthood remaining under the New Covenant of Jesus is the Melchizeded Priesthood.
The only Temple remaining under the New Covenant of Jesus is the Temple of the Holy Ghost--The holy Christian People and children of God.
The only Davidic King from the line of David still alive today is the Kingd of kings--King Jesus Christ reigning from His eternal throne from heaven in the hearts of His people.

Bob, when you bite into the forbidden apple of modern "Jewish fables", you are eveloping your heart with the Jewish vail of darkness.
You need to get your nose out of politics and focus it on the Word of God. It takes years of study and the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to free you from these end time deceptions.

I speak to you as a friend and a brother.

In Christ
Emile



To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (182)5/13/1998 5:01:00 AM
From: Emile Vidrine  Respond to of 344
 
"The preaching of the gospel after Jesus rose was not the second gathering of the nation of Israel."

What do you think it was? Read the Gospels and the Epistles and you will learn that it is indeed the second and final gathering. It is just an ignoranance of Scriptures and a false "faith" in modern political and social propaganda.

There are examples in the Gospels and Epistles of Jesus's fulfillment of this regathering.
Just openning our Bibles to Matt. we find:
Matt.2:6
And thou Bethlemen, in the land of Juda, art not the least
among the princes of Juda; for out of the shall come a Govenor, that shall rule my people Israel.

Is Jesus governing His people Israel today? You bet He is!
This prophecy was quoted in Matt. to show that Jesus had fulfilled this prophecy.

Did Jesus regather Israel? Let's just look at one example of the marvelous regathering of the remanant:
Acts 2:36-
36: Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
37: Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38: Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39: For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40: And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
41: Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.((not bad, three thousand of the remanant coverted in one day.))
42: And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread,and in prayers.
((These thousands of Jews became Christians and according to you have lost their Chosen People status because you tell us that it is the modern Jews who are the chosen people. You make Jesus Christ a curse to these ancient Jews who accepted Jesus. According to your teaching they would have been better off to remain Jews and keep their chosen status. What absurdity and Pharisaical teachings!
Jesus Christ is not and never has been a curse to the true Jewish People. All those who receive Jesus become the real chosen people.