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To: Francis Chow who wrote (6105)	5/12/1998 11:37:00 PM
From: Time Traveler	Respond to of 6843

<They [Intel] were extremely arrogant to think they could get away with a cra* like the Celeron> Well, the low-end market, those who do not know what they want, demand CPUs that can do simple word-processing, surf the internet, and play special-effect games. Celeron does fit this role. And better yet, for those who know what they are doing and what they want, would settle on Deschutte and use the same motherboard as the Celeron. It is a win-win situation. Gary Hart's demise was not because of Jennifer Flower. His agenda and charisma was no match to his fellow Democrats running for the Presidency. Clinton's scandal was just as good as Gary's, but Clinton had better agenda and charisma. Time Traveler

To: Francis Chow who wrote (6105)	5/13/1998 11:56:00 AM
From: Ali Chen	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 6843

Francis, <Even if they release a good Celeron .. they've damaged the brand name,> I am not sure about the brand name, but they definitely will have a back-fire effect from their "high-frequency" paradigm. For a general customer the message from the veg is clear: "if the veg can go to 400MHZ and can do all I want for $150, why should I waste extra $600 on some other Pentium-400?" To gain 15% performance on obscure benchmarks? The consequence is quite predictable - less sales for "real" high-priced Pentiums, all prices will tend to the $150-$200 range, no fat profits from the whole line of products. That will be a real BOO BOO. With Celery, Intel is going to compete with it's own products. Some of Intelons over here still cannot get it. To subsidize the vegs Intel wants to charge $2,000 per 1MB of L2 cache on Xeons! With the whole server market of about 2M units/year, I do not think it would help their gross margins. IMHO. - Ali