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To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (15604)	5/13/1998 11:27:00 AM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Ann, >>SHEESH!!!!! I need to see a few Bugs Bunny cartoons after even having to spend time imagining such a situation for a sweet angelic(they all are) child.<< I too believe children should be protected at all cost as their innocence is our blessing. But I could not resist giving you a couple of biblical references about "angels" :o) (2 Sam 24:15-16 NIV) So the LORD sent a plague on Israel from that morning until the end of the time designated, and seventy thousand of the people from Dan to Beersheba died. When the <<angel>> stretched out his hand to destroy Jerusalem, the LORD was grieved because of the calamity and said to the angel who was afflicting the people, "Enough! Withdraw your hand." The angel of the LORD was then at the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite. (2 Ki 19:35 NIV) That night the <<angel>> of the LORD went out and put to death a hundred and eighty-five thousand men in the Assyrian camp. When the people got up the next morning--there were all the dead bodies! Of course that is just two examples. Angels were not just sent to kill but also to deliver GOOD NEWS!!! (Luke 1:26-33 NIV) In the sixth month, God sent the<< angel Gabriel>> to Nazareth, a town in Galilee,to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin's name was Mary. The angel went to her and said, "Greetings, you who are highly favored! THE LORD IS WITH YOU." Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be.But the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God. You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus.HE WILL BE GREAT AND WILL BE CALLED THE SON OF THE MOST HIGH.The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, and HE WILL REIGN over the house of Jacob FOREVER; HIS KINGDOM WILL NEVER END." (caps mine.) Have a nice day. dan

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (15604)	5/13/1998 12:26:00 PM
From: DLL	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Dear Ann; I agree 100% with your motivation to save the child. There are a few sticky points. The perpetrators were a whole tribe, who truly believed that the lessor evil was to ensure the crops, allowing the whole village to eat for a year, saving many lives. I believe they were mistaken in this belief. I don't think trying to take the child would work when you are so outnumbered. Storming the place with guns would also cause a moral dilemma for me. The way the situation was finally dealt with were Christian missionaries who saw the error, and lovingly over a period of time worked to change the hearts and minds of the people involved. Praise Yeshua. I apologize for making such an extreme example. It does make the point that sometimes an organized group can with a common belief of love do good that the individual lover of G-d cannot. Another case which is not quite so emotionally gripping. There is a religion that is practiced in South Florida called Santoria. It is a combination of Catholicism and Voodoo. An important part of this belief system is to sacrifice animals while performing ritual dance and singing. Suppose with me that these people were living next to you, and performing these rituals where your children could watch. This is not a made up example and a great political debate about this issue occurred in the Miami area. Would you ask them to stop? What moral authority would you appeal to? I hope you don't feel picked on by my questions. These issues are broad, and I feel many people here could benefit from our discussion. I sense you are a loving person and won't mind pursuing this with me. If anyone else would like to comment, please feel free. In Yehua's love for all - DLL