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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (21566)	5/14/1998 9:16:00 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 108807

I thought she was an idiot at first when I read that,also, X, about white people. Some of it I don't really agree with at all. However, after I thought about what she was saying, and remembered that she was probably talking about white people everywhere, not just America, a few of the things she said make a little sense. For example, I do believe white people romanticize war. Look at all the groups who reinact military engagements, for example. The ones I have read about recently are for the Civil War, but I am sure there are others. And look at all our military ceremonies, and tombs, and monuments, and parades. There are sure a lot of them!! Right now in the news, some people are really sad that the whole Tomb of the Unknown Soldier days are probably ending, because with DNA techniques the tiniest bit of a soldier who died in battle can be identified. And military/war memorabilia is extremely collectable, and rapidly gaining in price, as you must know. The whole idea of the founding of America, and settling the west, was based on rugged individualism. I am wracking my brain to think of a non-white culture where the individual is so important, and can only think of Asian cultures where the individual's needs are subordinate to those of the family. Perhaps you can suggest non-white cultures which are as individualistic as ours. Christianity of course has now been spread by missionaries throughout all the world, but if you look at history, it was the religion of European whites, who brought it to America. The natives laughed at the Christians, especially the uptight way they had sex, and that is where we get the term "missionary position". I bet white people still have a higher rate of listing Christianity as their religion than black and brown peoples do, though, worldwide. I don't know much about emotional control in terms of various cultural groups. My experience is skewed by living in San Francisco. Maybe one of our anthropological experts could contribute to a discussion of this issue. I do know that whenever I talk to white people who did not grow up here, they are much more reserved, and often talk of emotionally controlling family rules. It seems to me that I can think of Asian cultures where there is a lot of emotional control also, though, so I would not think this is a particularly valid point. A penchant for strict time schedules? Isn't this generally based more on temperate zones than race? I read an interesting article once that said so. It is a lot harder to hurry, and it seems a lot less purposeful to do so, in a languid tropical climate than in New York or Boston, for example. Of course, white people seem to have conquered the climate zones in which they feel comfortable, so this may be a chicken and egg argument. But really, I didn't post Judith Katz' remark because I agreed with it. I posted it because I was surprised to see white people judged as a group with common characteristics like all the other races are, at times (my rugged individualism was offended)! The earth's peoples are less than 20% white, and the non-whites are reproducing much more fruitfully. Since in America, for most of us, it just seems normal to be white and to be the dominant culture, I thought it was interesting to think about being a minority, and being treated like one, including being stereotyped.