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Microcap & Penny Stocks : Eutro ( EUTO ) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Stretch who wrote (5671)	5/15/1998 9:37:00 PM
From: Judith	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 12043

Stretch, I am not trying to get anyone to agree with me. As I said, time will tell by the share price and not all the debate and antagonism on this thread. Discussing your statements objectively, I don't quite see how you can say things are different from last year as far as the company is concerned. I agree with you that there is no longer a short squeeze and all the hype. I just don't see much change in any other regard. There is still a very large float, the share price is extremely low, and there aren't very many deals...only one signed in five months (using January as the start of the year). Yes, one is better than none, but they also announced a couple of deals last year. Maybe they will get more, we will see, but that is just speculation at this point. The concept of getting shares is positive. However, it still remains to be seen what the value of those shares will be to a EUTO shareholder. You are very lucky you have a paper profit. Many of us aren't that lucky. Judith

To: Stretch who wrote (5671)	5/16/1998 12:25:00 AM
From: rod gerbrandt	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12043

Stretch or anyone else: How can a shareholder go about getting and returning the necessary forms for the Freedom shares? On Jan 31, I held 10,000 EUTO shares. Today I own 26,000 shares. I plan on adding more very soon. What was the minimum number of EUTO shares needed to be eligible for the Freedom shares? What was the ratio? Also, how can I make sure I'm on EUTO's list for a newsletter mailing? Thanks in advance? Rod

To: Stretch who wrote (5671)	5/16/1998 2:37:00 AM
From: James Bender	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 12043

Well Stretch I was taking a nap and then I see where people were slamming me on the thread for the view I have taken. I am not here to take abuse from everyone that shares a different opinion from mine. My problem is that I wanted others to question EUTO about their progress with the 50 million issue. When I asked others to do the same I am immediately labeled a naysayer because I have chosen to quit being led by the nose with regards to the constant stalling of the share issue. I know that EUTO has said time and time again that they do not wish to go to court with the people that have done the company wrong. But I am just not from that school of thinking. If the people would have not caused such a loss for the company's stock price and constant depressed state of business I would not be so harsh on the company. But what about all the people that got into this stock during the time frame that the company was saying this was true and that was true and had a reasonable expectation to believe they were being told the truth. Well I can tell you I and Alan and Gabard and many others asked time and time again for specific information to bring back to this thread for others to make an informed decision on whether or not to buy this stock. We were not told correct information. This information was known to EUTO and we were still told incorrect answers when management knew what the real answers were. When the transfer agent said one thing and the company said another, it was the transfer agent that was telling the correct amount for the float. It wasn't until it was too late for many that the truth came out about the float. Many can say what they want about me and take the managements word over mine but no person can find a post that contains a lie on it that I have posted. And one does not have to look hard to find where someone believes management has misled them. I don't know what the true story on the share issue is but I do know from the VERY moment that the first detail of a share issue came to surface, we were misled. At that time nobody had the right to mislead us as investors. That was about one year ago, and to this day we don't know a SINGLE bit more information about it..Does anybody think that shareholders of IBM would sit still and not demand answers from IBM about where over half the float is concerned. This company is the same as IBM they are public companies...When they take our money for the IPO they are saying we are here for you. I am not sure which poster said that the gig was up and that my bluff was called. I didn't even know what he was talking about until I went back and saw where he dared me to sell my shares. I don't want anyone to sell shares and I will not sell my shares until I am good and ready. This not about selling shares this is about getting to the bottom or root of our evil stock price. Some of you are not up to being as persistent as me maybe. But I am aware that the reason this price will not rise is not from the lack of buyers and sellers, on the contrary we have plenty of people to do the job. But until we clear this issue of the shares we are here to stay. Some of you have been critical of my being to pushy about this share issue negotiation. I have been a part of some extremely difficult and tedious negotiations and in 3 to 4 months I would know where my side stood. Now after 6 months I could have countless meetings and talks and would be exhausted and would feel that I had done my best but would continue. But at least I would have a very detailed explanation of my progress and have a very good idea of my final outcome. To wrap it up the company has known about this issue for at least 8 to 12 months. And we have not had one update on progress. Saying that we are in close negotiations with one of the parties after 7 or 8 months is not an update. With a problem of this magnitude why are we not in court we have a lawyer right, we have suffered great losses to the company. The players know we know about the mistake, the shareholders are aware of the problem. So why no press release about this problem. I was told that it would possibly give up some advantage or something to that effect. But I can not see where a short press release to the public that says that EUTO is in negotiations to secure the shares back can hurt anything. Does the lawyer see some advantage in the total secrecy, if so what is it. Is there close ties to these people that would cause them undo embarassment with such a release. If so who is suffering with this preferred treatment to the wrongdoers...it is us shareholders thats who....If it was a total secret and no one person other than the parties involved were aware of it, then I could understand 100 PERCENT there needed to be complete silence until the deal is closed. But the cat is out of the bag and the company should have backed the shareholders confidence when it was waining because of the hugeness of this problem...It is fact that this has happen just look at the list of names that no longer appear on this thread. Most of you longs would like me to stop posting because you know that there are people that read what I say and research ever word I type and can see where I am getting my facts and disregard your bashing on my posts. I also know that the company would like to see me stop posting. I did stop posting until I was bashed again and here I am. Here is my deal for you diehard LONGS..Instead of bashing me prove me wrong, you have not attempted to do that yet....I have posted fact after fact about this share issue and you have not disputed the misleading information that the company gave us. It does not even enter the equation if Brad knew the truth when he told us something. Those above him did know the truth. When one of you prove me wrong and can get a reasonable answer from the company about why we have not formally been told of the negotiations with the people responsible for the share problem. I will disappear from the thread unless slammed. Saying the lawyer told us not to will be a lame answer and no one out here will feel any better.....good luck on your search for the truth.....Jim