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To: Father Terrence who wrote (21671)5/17/1998 3:39:00 AM
From: Grainne  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Terrence, I did not just pull my statistics off the Internet. Did you actually read the Irish Times article? America has a really high infant death rate compared to other civilized countries, so again I am not sure about your logic. Trans fatty acids kill 30,000 people a year in the United States. How many people die of smoking related illnesses? A third of all smokers do!!! I am too tired to go hunting for statistics, but it is quite a few more than 30,000 a year in America.

We could argue about statistics all day, but what you did was try to drag some statistics that were erroneous into a point you were making, and failed utterly.

I certainly do not support antibiotics in milk, or meat. It is true that these are banned in Ireland, and that is positive. However, eating meat and drinking full-fat milk have significant health detriments attached whether or not they have antibiotics. There is an Irish store in San Francisco, where you can buy all sorts of Irish foods. Contrary to your opinion on the matter, the Irish, like the English, absolutely love packaged cookies, candies, potato chips, soup mixes, etc. When my husband first came here we went to this store every week, and he always wanted to buy stuff like that. I have always carefully read labels, however, and dissuaded him because these foods are full of palm kernel oil and very nasty hydrogenated fats and LARD, as well. Comparable American products at this time were much healthier, relatively speaking.

And while there are a few, very rare cases where human longevity has pushed over 120 years, it is extremely unusual. There are many experts who do not believe we will be able to push it for most of the population much past the mid-eighties, and why would we? Younger people need older people to get out of the way at some point so they can work, live in houses, etc. Our health costs are already staggering. The life cycle has some of its own wisdom inside it.

It is you who needs to investigate more thoroughly, or perhaps make your points based on the subject at hand, without drawing in extraneous, unrelated topics to muddy everything up.



To: Father Terrence who wrote (21671)5/18/1998 5:47:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Let's not hear one more word of this subversive disrespect for the glory that is hydrogenated fats!!!