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To: Olu Emuleomo who wrote (17090)	5/17/1998 2:23:00 PM
From: John Mansfield	Respond to of 31646

[UTILITIES] ' most haven't "anticipated the full scope" of the embedded systems issue.' 'Robert, Despite Milne's obnoxious style, you "don't get it" Robert and Frances Egan <nospam_allowed@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article <355E1417.B0C@ix.netcom.com>... > In an effort to impose some journalistic balance for folks who won't > read the entire article, here are some facts which were omitted from > Paul Milne's editorial: > > [quoted in original post] > > > > > The Omaha Public Power District's Fort Calhoun Station in Nebraska, a nuclear > > power plant built in 1973, recently began a year 2000 assessment of its > > embedded chips. > Also from Brad Pence [but omitted from original post]: > Pence said embedded chips don't pose a threat to systems that directly > operate the nuclear reactors; those systems are analog, not digital, and > not affected by the date glitch. He said he believes the microprocessors > will be replaced and fixed in time. That's not a good statement to hang your hat on. What he's saying in his "Public Relations Pap" statement is that the nuclear reactor safety won't be compromised. What he fails to say is that it is likely that the reactor will not be allowed to operate by the NRC if these systems are not fixed. We've been through this over and over. Where have you been? > "There's a concern there, but I think it's doable," Pence said. More public relations pap. > > fedinfo@halifax.com wrote: > > > There is no way to rationally hold the belief that there is a good possibility > > of maintaining power generation when Nuclear plants have not even finished an > > assessment of their embedded systems. Listen to this next piece of claptrap He's right if they're not fixed and if they don't get off their butts and schedule some "forced outages" to do the work they won't get fixed. Swirbull is talking about defering these outages into 1999. This is unacceptable. > > Ok folks. Here's the deal. Do you believe the person responsible for > monitoring the embedded systems on a day to day basis, or a retired > securities analyst living on a farm in Virginia? Who do YOU think is the > more qualified expert on power plant operational readiness? You must > decide for yourself, but for me that's a no brainer. > > > "Barry Kallander, vice president at the company, said that while nuclear > > plant operators are well along in their efforts to make systems year 2000 > > compliant, most haven't "anticipated the full scope" of the embedded systems > > issue. " > > Key phrase here: "nuclear plant operators are well along in their > efforts". No, key words "most haven't 'anticipated the full scope' of the embedded systems issue. " > > "The majority of utilities are still in the inventory phase of embedded > > systems work -- "We haven't found anybody who is in the testing phase yet," > > said Rich Nicholson, an utility analyst at Stamford, Conn.-based Meta Group, > > Inc.'s Energy Information Strategies." Testing phase must be defined. Nobody is running advanced clock testing on entire nuclear reactors. Nobody and you know it. > Of course, you have to look sharp to realize that this paragraph is not > from Kallandar. The original article and the first post had them back to > back. The second quote is from a representative of company selling Y2K > solutions to utilities (http://www.metagroup.com/). Yes, of course, because he has a view across multiple reactors. Yes Robert, they are delaying and procrastinating and talking about "We'll do it when the outage is scheduled." They behavior is totally irresponsible and I would say yours as well for falsely characterizing what is going on. What Paul says doesn't matter at all. You should be able to perceive what the raw report means. Harlan ____ Subject: Re: Nukes: Clueless About Embedded Systems Date: 16 May 1998 19:39:56 EDT From: "Harlan Smith" <hwsmith.nowhere@cris.com> Organization: Paperless Newsgroups: comp.software.year-2000 References: 1 , 2