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Strategies & Market Trends : Mr. Pink's Picks: selected event-driven value investments -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Mr. Pink who wrote (1562)5/18/1998 9:32:00 AM
From: valueminded  Respond to of 18998
 
Mr. Pink

thanks for info on Octel. I agree not very exciting but interesting at right price. (32.5 may not be bad depending on debt loading yes/no ?)

I tried to look up the quotes on the "when issued" basis under Yahoo but I could not find anything. I guess you get what you pay for. How do you get the Bloomberg quotes ? do you have to subscribe and is it expensive ?

Do you have an indication on Chicago Title as well ? It is also one that interests me.

Sorry about the lots of questions. But I have a lot of learning to do.

thanks

PS. I haven't seen any more "pink picks" of late. Do you have any forthcoming (long or short) On the short side, I prefer ones that trade options as it is difficult to know how high some "investors" (gamblers) can drive stocks.



To: Mr. Pink who wrote (1562)5/22/1998 8:31:00 AM
From: valueminded  Respond to of 18998
 
Mr. Pink:

Please give me feedback on the logic for evaluating octel.

EBITDA about 160mil . Total shares 15million, trading when issued per your note at 32.5 Debt 450 million.

TEV is then about 900million, with EBITDA at 160million.

Negatives are the cash flow section of the business is in decline and expected to decline in volume by 11% next year. Debt is expected to be paid down 20-30% within 1 year of spinoff (or so I am told)

The TEV/EBITDA ratio is about 5-6 which doesnt seem bad except that the business is in a decline.

The parent is a member of the SP500, the spinoff won't be so I would expect significant selling in the first trading weeks.

Please comment on my logic and if you had a price what you think would be a good price for this business.

As always, thanks. I am following your latest pans - SIR, MRVC and CLCX, (these are the only ones I feel comfortable with since they trade options) In this day and age of overpriced stocks, what do you see as the "events" that will cause MRVC and SIR to decline. CLCX seems rather apparent.