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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (32751)5/18/1998 10:47:00 AM
From: Kenith Lee  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572025
 
Jim,

It is tough for the "me too" companies to reproduce and stay compatible without getting sue, or at least threaten to be sued by deep pocket Intel. Those that have seen the electron microscope pictures knew how shitty Intel's process technologies are. So don't be fool be Yousef. Intel's process isn't as good as Motorola or IBM.

Intel's PII 333-350mhz have gate length of about 0.18 micron. K6 is still above 0.2 micron and achieved 300mhz. The small difference in gate length can be 1-2 speed grades (50 per grade). I wouldn't be surprise to see IBM's K6 to be at least 400mhz when shipped since they can tweak their own process better than AMD.



To: Jim McMannis who wrote (32751)5/18/1998 7:20:00 PM
From: Yousef  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572025
 
Jim,

Re: " I can't help but wonder about the margins they could have gotten by
selling 333MHz PentiumMMXs on .25u for a cost of $30."

One thing to remember, Jim, is that smaller die size means more risk to
the chip design schedule. It is much more important to get a product
into the market with almost no competition than to be late. Meeting
product introduction schedules is key to building credibility with your
customers. I can tell that your "conversion" to Intel is going to be
a long, slow process. <ggg>

Make It So,
Yousef



To: Jim McMannis who wrote (32751)5/18/1998 11:40:00 PM
From: Dave  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572025
 
Jim:

RE: " I can't help but wonder about the margins they could have gotten by selling. 333MHz PentiumMMXs on .25u for a cost of $30."

I also seem to recall that Intel had to crank up the drive currents (ala AMD) to get 266 MHz. As was stated earlier, the Pentium design is finally running out of gas.

dave