To: Curtis E. Bemis who wrote (990 ) 5/18/1998 1:36:00 PM From: Frank A. Coluccio Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3873
<<off-topic>> Curtis, All very accurate observations. Both because of the reasons you state, and for reasons associated with aircraft carrier movements. What are the alternatives, I ask you...? And alternatives do exist, but not on a point to point basis. P-P would, indeed, result in the surrealistic numbers of the kind that would cuase the disbelief you've demonstrated. But that is not the case. I'm glad, in any event, that the magnitude of this hand-me-down has struck home. >If you designed this network for a customer ..< Whoaa... We should stop right here for a breather. The greater net is not designed yet to the detail level, and there are 000's of user organizations, not just "1" customer. >you missed your calling. You do realize this is a FULL bi-di OC3, Packet-over-SONET< Exactly, that was my point. In some metropolitan cluster points it is more like multiples of bi-di OC-3s, while my modeling tools are still being modified to use exponents. But it would only be such in a clouded environment, and NEVER a point to point one, where end users were involved, due to the horrendous costs involved, as you so correctly state. This is the gist of the problem: What kind of cloud can support the statistical brawn required, and the buffering needed, to prevent "clutching" in a set of applications burdened with high-speed electro-mechanical scanners, feeders and transports? I am tending to look at a TCP/IP net governed by... You see, some really interesting constraints having to do with start-stop consequences exist which make r-t and/or CBR features absolute requirements. For clarity, though, again, it is not "one" client, just as the Automotive Network eXchange, or ANX, in the auto industry is not a single client, per se. These are, instead, closed electronic commerce communities of interest, like IP extranets. The one I am referring to, likewise, is uniquely focused to a specific industry. Hope that this has clarified the matter for you. And yes, I still owe you. Lunch, that is. <g> Cheers, FAC ps - would suggest further discussion on this off line, or by phone, since others have likely had their fill of our sharing war stories by now. Later!